The Midnighter VS Thor: H2H

Started by jaxthejester4 pages

He doesn't use it often. But in Marvel- you don't really need to.

Still, he does have it. The scans aren't just him moving at a blur.
They state directly that he is moving "faster than the eye can follow."

That IS super speed.

Not light speed... but Super Speed none the less.

Originally posted by jaxthejester
He doesn't use it often. But in Marvel- you don't really need to.

Still, he does have it. The scans aren't just him moving at a blur.
They state directly that he is moving "faster than the eye can follow."

That IS super speed.

Not light speed... but Super Speed none the less.


Its nothing people like Batman or Wolverine or Captain America haven't done. In fact Wolverine and Sabretooth fought so fast that Psylocke couldn't even see them while they danced around her. That's way better than Thor's random showing once per decade where he moves his arm faster than eye can see. Recall how Mongoose danced circles around Thor and earlier in the same issue Spidey danced circles around Mongoose himself? Spidey speedblitzing masterson Thor? Thor saying wolverine is faster than himself? Daredevil dancing circles around Thor? Cobra dancing circles around Thor? There are A LOT more showing where Thor doesn't shows any kind of speed than where he shows speed. Like 99% of his fights.

http://www.comicvine.com/thor/4005-2268/forums/does-thor-have-super-speed-571419/

Read.

And educate thyself.

What about his fight with Gorr? Weren't they fighting at FTL speeds from what I heard?

Originally posted by jaxthejester
http://www.comicvine.com/thor/4005-2268/forums/does-thor-have-super-speed-571419/

Read.

And educate thyself.

which he still uses less frequently than superman will use a speed blitz but for some reason blitzing is generally considered less than viable for Superman....

Originally posted by jaxthejester
http://www.comicvine.com/thor/4005-2268/forums/does-thor-have-super-speed-571419/

Read.

And educate thyself.


I have done much more. I've actually read the comics which feature Thor and not this random copy/paste from ODG's hilarious attempt at using cropped up scans to say he's a speedster. Compare this

To this.

Or the ease with which Daredevil dances around Thor.

http://i.imgur.com/TTlbgdC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1XQHnXI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yXqRqro.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VLCZqHh.jpg

And decide just what kind of speed Thor has. This is not an isolated instant either.

This is spite.

Thor is way to strong and way to durable for Mids. Thor wins easily at times. Mid's might be able to delay it for a while but he is pretty much screwed in this type of fight.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
This is spite.

Thor is way to strong and way to durable for Mids. Thor wins easily at times. Mid's might be able to delay it for a while but he is pretty much screwed in this type of fight.

This is far from spite.

The combination of The Midnighter's fighting ESP, skill, speed and now Thor level strength make him a viable threat.

Didn't see that Mids has the strength of Thor.

Never mind LOL. Most A-lists will dethrone him in just H2H with Thor level strength.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I have done much more. I've actually read the comics which feature Thor and not this random copy/paste from ODG's hilarious attempt at using cropped up scans to say he's a speedster. Compare this

To this.

Or the ease with which Daredevil dances around Thor.

http://i.imgur.com/TTlbgdC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1XQHnXI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yXqRqro.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VLCZqHh.jpg

And decide just what kind of speed Thor has. This is not an isolated instant either.


Lol at these sorry attempts.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol at these sorry attempts.

You mean better scans than "look here Thor going faster than eye can see LOL."

With Thor's strength midnighter easily wins. This is not a good thread IMO.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol at these sorry attempts.
👆

Nope. His more recent feats include using his insane strength, durability, energy projection, and getting punched in the face a lot of times. However, you might find a feat here or there of him using his heightened speed.

I think you dont read his fight against Gorr, where he showed FTL speed during the fight.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
I think you dont read his fight against Gorr, where he showed FTL speed during the fight.
he only traveled at Ftl speeds over light year distances. And that was Mjolnirs doing, not Thor's .

Originally posted by h1a8
he only traveled at Ftl speeds over light year distances. And that was Mjolnirs doing, not Thor's .

I think you missed some important parts of the fight:

1 - Gorr tagging Thor and King Thor (when both was flying with a FTL +++++ speed). This shows Gorr has FTL +++ speed in reflexes at least (able to see, perceive and throw a giant rock in people who travel FTL+++++).

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/Thor_-_God_of_Thunder_009-007_zps5c897d00.jpg

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/4_zpsfa1e1b94.jpg

Since Thor fighted H2H with him multiple times (and even got some speed advantage sometimes) we can say he must have reflexes on pair with him.

2 - In the end of the fight, they were in a planet, and started to Hit Gorr until they finished in a Sun. They traveled far faster than light while punching him multiple times.

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/13_zps71611365.jpg

http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/eaebiakuya/media/14_zps47c35b79.jpg.html?sort=3&o=8

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
I think you missed some important parts of the fight:

1 - Gorr tagging Thor and King Thor (when both was flying with a FTL +++++ speed). This shows Gorr has FTL +++ speed in reflexes at least (able to see, perceive and throw a giant rock in people who travel FTL+++++).

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/Thor_-_God_of_Thunder_009-007_zps5c897d00.jpg

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/4_zpsfa1e1b94.jpg

Since Thor fighted H2H with him multiple times (and even got some speed advantage sometimes) we can say he must have reflexes on pair with him.

2 - In the end of the fight, they were in a planet, and started to Hit Gorr until they finished in a Sun. They traveled far faster than light while punching him multiple times.

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/13_zps71611365.jpg

http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/eaebiakuya/media/14_zps47c35b79.jpg.html?sort=3&o=8

1. I argue that the Thor's slowed down to speeds under light speed far before Gorr threw those chunks. This is reasonable under the suspension of disbelief since one has to first slow down when getting close to their destination. In the next panel you see that they are very close to the moon.

2. Feats aren't shared and thus abc logic doesn't work here. Characters many times don't use their abilities as shown before. Humans have tagged and dodged beings who have shown Ftl speed and reflexes. Slow powerful beings have engaged and done well against speedsters many times. Just because a being is capable of superspeed doesn't mean they are always operating with it. Otherwise Thor wouldn't get out speed by wolverine, mongoose, etc and Surfer wouldn't get punched in the face by super slow beings.

Thor slowed down? If he has the capacity for that, then he must have reflexes to perceive a FTL +++++ travel, dont ? Its not like a car of a ship who need time to slow down. Mjolnir go to FTL++++ to zero in a instant.

And there is no evidence that they slowed down. Mjolnir alredy showed that he can go to Zero to FTL in seconds if not less.

I agree that some characthers not always use superspeed, but this is a feat from the same issue. If he showed FTL speed in one page, why he wont would be using that in the next page...?

And what about they hitting Gorr while going to the sun ?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
What about his fight with Gorr? Weren't they fighting at FTL speeds from what I heard?
Yep. 👆

Even young!Thor was keeping up.

Also, he's moved faster than a Skyfather like Surtur could in combat.

Does it matter about Thor's speed, though?

The battle computer is good enough for Mids to come up with solutions whilst simultaneously fighting millions of aliens or some crap like that. Yes, absolute high end Thor has damn good speed feats - but they're few and far between.