Originally posted by SamZED
Wait so every time someone tries to mindrape Supes he on pure instinct starts flying through stuff? Good thing it wasn't some old lady.
Where as Galactus is should to be at a level where Thanos, Xaiver, Doctor Strange(once got knocked out by Galactus giving him a surge info),etc couldn't do much of anything to harm.
Originally posted by Iron-man
To be fair it's not like Spectre has god tier mental telepath feats in that story. Martian Manhunter Batman were to to resisit Spectre at the time. I'm mistaken Joker has mind****ed Spectre before too.Where as Galactus is should to be at a level where Thanos, Xaiver, Doctor Strange(once got knocked out by Galactus giving him a surge info),etc couldn't do much of anything to harm.
Trans were a living Universe.
http://i.imgur.com/NGIBVCP.jpg
That's better than anything Galactus has done psionically. Then there is him collecting all of the human misery and suffering through every temporal timeline, and then psychically fed it to Sitgmonus
His mind functioning on an Universal level.
Spectre's body is a consciousness itself, containing eternity itself, and beings like Galactus are nothing compared to that.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Spectre's body is a consciousness itself, containing eternity itself, and beings like Galactus are nothing compared to that. [/B]
Then there is the fact that Joker's psyche once temporarily took over Spectre's Jim Corrigan's body until Spectre's used other souls to drawn Joker out.
Galactus also has nigh-omniscience like mind too. While it isn't embodiment of the universe, Galactus does have large range of mental senses
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Doom%20Fights/DoomvsBeyonder06.jpg.htm
The difference is that Galactus defenses to break seeing how Uatu/Odin are two cosmic beings that were there strong enough to probe Galactus, while Thanos/Xaiver got dismissed, and Doctor Strange got kayoed once when Galactus put information in his mind(We know that Strange's willpower/mind is tough stuff).
Originally posted by carver9
Wow...going by that scan, he could have done the same things to the Beyonder as well.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman takes Xavier's Galactus busting TP and shoves it back in his head with TP resistance better than Spectre.
Originally posted by Iron-man
Galactus also has nigh-omniscience like mind too. While it isn't embodiment of the universe, Galactus does have large range of mental senses
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Doom%20Fights/DoomvsBeyonder06.jpg.htm
The difference is that Galactus defenses to break seeing how Uatu/Odin are two cosmic beings that were there strong enough to probe Galactus, while Thanos/Xaiver got dismissed, and Doctor Strange got kayoed once when Galactus put information in his mind(We know that Strange's willpower/mind is tough stuff).
Originally posted by Iron-man
To be fair it's not like Spectre has god tier mental telepath feats in that story. Martian Manhunter Batman were to to resisit Spectre at the time. I'm mistaken Joker has mind****ed Spectre before too.Where as Galactus is should to be at a level where Thanos, Xaiver, Doctor Strange(once got knocked out by Galactus giving him a surge info),etc couldn't do much of anything to harm.
@abhi: Let's not go about making such silly claims as Galactus being nothing compared to a guy like Spectre in the psionic department. And lol at universal-level consciousness being at all relevant in a discussion involving Galactus. Trust me, you of all people don't want to get into a debate of Galactus' feats on the mental/astral level compared to someone like the Spectre.
Originally posted by Iron-man
The point is that acting like Superman overcoming The trans/Spectre's subconscious despite the fact that Batman did it too, and Martain Manhunter linking Spectre's mind doesn't make it seem like Spectre has super high defenses. Since Spectre seem very vulnerable at that story, and he needed the willpower of JLA/humanity to win against the Trans.Then there is the fact that Joker's psyche once temporarily took over Spectre's Jim Corrigan's body until Spectre's used other souls to drawn Joker out.
Galactus also has nigh-omniscience like mind too. While it isn't embodiment of the universe, Galactus does have large range of mental senses
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Doom%20Fights/DoomvsBeyonder06.jpg.htm
The difference is that Galactus defenses to break seeing how Uatu/Odin are two cosmic beings that were there strong enough to probe Galactus, while Thanos/Xaiver got dismissed, and Doctor Strange got kayoed once when Galactus put information in his mind(We know that Strange's willpower/mind is tough stuff).
Have you read the comic? Spectre was overpowered because he was in Joker's mind which made it Joker's turf or something. Its Joker, he has made Bat-mite who is a 5-D imp and could casually create several universes beaten in his mind. His madness is a plot device in itself.
You don't want me to bring Galactus' low end feats here. ****ing silver surfer has created illusions which fooled him at one point, Dr. Strange knocked him out with a mental attack while he was weakened etc. Anyway Spectre has several cosmic entities failing to enter his mind, not have a prolonged TP fight with a skyfather like Odin. He is simply above the likes of Galactus.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You don't want me to bring Galactus' low end feats here. ****ing silver surfer has created illusions which fooled him at one point, Dr. Strange knocked him out with a mental attack while he was weakened etc. Anyway Spectre has several cosmic entities failing to enter his mind, not have a prolonged TP fight with a skyfather like Odin. He is simply above the likes of Galactus.
Lolwut? So Galactus actually coming out on top against Odin in their tp battle is a low showing now? Not to mention that this skyfather has shaken the multiverse before, has easily bfred universe-destroying energies, and is easily one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel universe, who actually has good tp feats of his own. Heck, Odin vs Spectre would be a better debate than Galactus vs Spectre.
Originally posted by Epicurus
IIRC, the Spectre has also been beaten by Manjobber in a psychic battle on the astral plane.@abhi: Let's not go about making such silly claims as Galactus being nothing compared to a guy like Spectre in the psionic department. And lol at universal-level consciousness being at all relevant in a discussion involving Galactus. Trust me, you of all people don't want to get into a debate of Galactus' feats on the mental/astral level compared to someone like the Spectre.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/MartianManhunterv223-19.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/MartianManhunterv223-20.jpg
Galactus was nearly overwhelmed by Thanos who had to take moondragon's help to enter astral plane and The Other dildo raped him and left him to die back in SS v3.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Yes, do bring them up, because contrary to popular opinion, they are far and few as compared to Spectre's low end feats. And they almost always have heavy context loaded in them. Not to mention Strange's hax attack was performed when Galactus was almost already near death, and it is the lone instance of a lower-level hero actually taking him out, not to mention that a magic spell being equated to a psionic attack is retarded as hell.Lolwut? So Galactus actually coming out on top against Odin in their tp battle is a low showing now? Not to mention that this skyfather has shaken the multiverse before, has easily bfred universe-destroying energies, and is easily one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel universe, who actually has good tp feats of his own. Heck, Odin vs Spectre would be a better debate than Galactus vs Spectre.
Heh, what does shaking multiverse and BFRing universal energies has to do with TP? A random new god has created universes, Darkseid has flushed the whole multiverse down the toilet and Spectre has actually killed Darkseid casually.
Spectre beats Odin by a flick of his fingers and Galactus with two flicks. When they can stop two universes colliding, call me.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/spectreearth.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/spectreearth1.jpg
Re: Professor X mind attack!
Originally posted by carver9
Charles has 15 seconds to mind rape someone to the point that their unconscious. Who will Falk and who will still be standing?Contestants...
Nova Prime
Surfer
Superman
Hulk (angry)
Thor
Wonder Woman
Magneto (without helmet)
Captain Marvel
WolverineEveryone here is resisting.
Back on topic....
They all fall. Hulk has a good chance of resisting, though, because of his powerset. Angrier he gets and all that.
Originally posted by abhilegend
On average they don't have such a high mental protection to fend off an attack from someone like Chuck. Seriously it was suggested at one point that Charles could've put Galactus to sleep much less surfer.
Originally posted by Galan007
Clears.Xavier could have preformed mind-phuckery on everyone who partook in Secret Wars... Among them was Galactus:
Canon! 👆
The key thing there is that Chuck was claiming he could have put everyone to sleep, it wasn't fact by a long shot. He was conveniently forgetting that in that same story the Enchantress casually kicked him out and laughed at his TP when he tried it on her.
Reed: "Err, Professor... I was at the Secret Wars too I and I distinctly remember you combined your power with Magneto's, and you still couldn't even get Galactus to notice your TP probe. You said that even unawares Galactus' mind was too powerful for you. In fact you said you were like 'gnats' to him. So, what exactly ? You just deliberately failed, and looked stupid on purpose?"
Prof X: "Ah... hmm. Now I'm not quite sure -"
Reed: "Also, I remember Enchantress shutting you down, blocking your power from affecting the other villains, flat out calling you a 'joke', and laughing at your bald head when you tried your TP on her."
Prof X: "SHE DID NOT LAUGH AT MY BALD HEAD!! WOMEN THINK BALD MEN ARE SEXY DAMN YOU!!!"
Reed: "And you showed Ultron in that flashback. Are you suggesting you could shut down Ultron telepathically? And I've seen you try to stop Hulk telepathically - you failed at that too."
Prof X: "Look, I'm just saying I could have finished it all. You know... if I wanted to.
Originally posted by basiliskSure things brah, somebody tell Bendis that. Reed claimed the same thing in Illuminati that Chuck could've pulled it off. I find it absurd that Bendis even considered this to be printed.
The key thing there is that Chuck was claiming he could have put everyone to sleep, it wasn't fact by a long shot. He was conveniently forgetting that in that same story the Enchantress casually kicked him out and laughed at his TP when he tried it on her.Reed: "Err, Professor... I was at the Secret Wars too I and I distinctly remember you combined your power with Magneto's, and you still couldn't even get Galactus to notice your TP probe. You said that even unawares Galactus' mind was too powerful for you. In fact you said you were like 'gnats' to him. So, what exactly ? You just deliberately failed, and looked stupid on purpose?"
Prof X: "Ah... hmm. Now I'm not quite sure -"
Reed: "Also, I remember Enchantress shutting you down, blocking your power from affecting the other villains, flat out calling you a 'joke', and laughing at your bald head when you tried your TP on her."
Prof X: "SHE DID NOT LAUGH AT MY BALD HEAD!! WOMEN THINK BALD MEN ARE SEXY DAMN YOU!!!"
Reed: "And you showed Ultron in that flashback. Are you suggesting you could shut down Ultron telepathically? And I've seen you try to stop Hulk telepathically - you failed at that too."
Prof X: "Look, I'm just saying I could have finished it all. You know... if I wanted to.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor's TP resistance in particular varies depending on the story, but Xavier does have the benefit of actually having been able to telepathically shut him down.
But then, comes a question:
How would go the Spider Woman with Shield TP block machine against Moondragon, The Other and Emma PF5 ?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Sure things brah, somebody tell Bendis that. Reed claimed the same thing in Illuminati that Chuck could've pulled it off. I find it absurd that Bendis even considered this to be printed.
Ok, and what matter then ?
In another thread you was saying " dont matter if a writer said WW have better reflexes than Superman, is just one writer and we should ignore him, he is wrong".
Now, even if we know for 100% sure Xavier cant do nothing against Galactus (he tried and falied more than one time), you still are using it, im not sure why.
