Professor X mind attack!

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Ok, and what matter then ?

In another thread you was saying " dont matter if a writer said WW have better reflexes than Superman, is just one writer and we should ignore him, he is wrong".

Now, even if we know for 100% sure Xavier cant do nothing against Galactus (he tried and falied more than one time), you still are using it, im not sure why.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spectre has WTFpwned manjobber in his own title. Manhunter has never been beaten by J'onn.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/MartianManhunterv223-19.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/MartianManhunterv223-20.jpg

Galactus was nearly overwhelmed by Thanos who had to take moondragon's help to enter astral plane and The Other dildo raped him and left him to die back in SS v3.

Same with Spectre whose low showings are tied to how much power Logoz grants to its users.

Heh, what does shaking multiverse and BFRing universal energies has to do with TP? A random new god has created universes, Darkseid has flushed the whole multiverse down the toilet and Spectre has actually killed Darkseid casually.

Spectre beats Odin by a flick of his fingers and Galactus with two flicks. When they can stop two universes colliding, call me.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/spectreearth.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/spectreearth1.jpg

Lol, now you're just straight up lying. At no point was Galactus actually threatened by Thanos when the latter tried to mind-probe him with Moondragon's help. Thanos came out looking far the worse of that encounter. Galactus stalemated both Scrier and the Other coming at him recently. We give precedence to what's most recent.

With the only difference being that Galactus' low showings don't just pop up when he's hungry either. He needs to be deadbeat starving for lower-level heroes to stand a chance. Heck, a hungry Galactus nearly blew up the universe in his fight with Mephisto.

I am mentioning that in response to you implying that beating a high-level skyfather who has established feats in terms of tp in a battle of tp is somehow a low showing compared to someone like Spectre, when it is far from that. Especially when on considers how the Spectre is majorly lacking in such feats. With their mother boxes. Context. Random new gods are barely herald level beings, you ignoring the context of a showing and trying to equate them to a high-end skyfather like Odin is laughable. Not to mention that if this is the showing which I suspect you're referring to(Hourman's hyperbolic commentary), then it is pretty much a non-feat to bring up in correlation to a being like Odin who has actually performed feats of such a level on-panel.

Let me guess; this is the same finger flick he used on Black Adam? Based on actual showings, the Spectre isn't that much above Odin, in fact a forum fight between the 2 would be an arguably good debate.

Lol at you thinking that stopping 2 colliding universes is at all worth mentioning a feat when talking about a being like Galactus. Because that apparently trumps holding your own against multiple bonafide universal powerhouses, or bringing the multiverse to its breaking point.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Ok, and what matter then ?

In another thread you was saying " dont matter if a writer said WW have better reflexes than Superman, is just one writer and we should ignore him, he is wrong".

Now, even if we know for 100% sure Xavier cant do nothing against Galactus (he tried and falied more than one time), you still are using it, im not sure why.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm not using it for anything. I found this statement to be infinitely absurd in all honesty that Bendis even considered it to be written. All I was saying that if such a statement can be seen in a comic, I wouldn't be surprised to see Charles mindrape Surfer. Its a complete non feat and quite frankly absurd.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sure things brah, somebody tell Bendis that. Reed claimed the same thing in Illuminati that Chuck could've pulled it off. I find it absurd that Bendis even considered this to be printed.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Which still does not change the fact that Manhunter easily forced him on the astral plane and pretty much mind-jacked him ftw.

Not to mention that if this is the showing which I suspect you're referring to(Hourman's hyperbolic commentary), then it is pretty much a non-feat to bring up in correlation to a being like Odin who has [b]actually performed feats of such a level on-panel.

Let me guess; this is the same finger flick he used on Black Adam?

Based on actual showings, the Spectre isn't that much above Odin, in fact a forum fight between the 2 would be an arguably good debate.

Lol at you thinking that stopping 2 colliding universes is at all worth mentioning a feat when talking about a being like Galactus. Because that apparently trumps holding your own against multiple bonafide universal powerhouses, or bringing the multiverse to its breaking point. [/B]

Originally posted by Epicurus
Then stop bringing it up. Whether or not Xavier can mindrape the Surfer with ease is up for debate, but Xavier being a telepathic microbe compared to Galactus is not.

So Abhilegend is going to downplay Galactus and ignore the fact he was weakened against Thor and was beating Mephisto in his own realm. You actually lie.

Spectre was also depowered in day of judgment by mages.

But don't blame it on me blame it on the comics.

🙂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Captain Marvel has absolutely no showings where he resists a telepath as powerful as Charles. In fact Brainwave has casually mindraped him.

You say that as though Henry King Jr is of no consequence. TP wise he's close to MMH league easily. In TP offense perhaps even slightly higher, though in a TP battle he would loose to Jonn' which I'll explain shortly.

Let's remember that the strength of mind that Mehen give BA allowed him to resist Jonn's TP assault in WWIII (this is one of a few examples of where BA and caps powers vary but i know you'll never see my way on that). Yet that same mental strength could not prevent Henry from breaching his defenses in 52. BA certainly sorted that out with a quick threat.

The reason why Jonn's would always win in a TP battle against Henry even though "potentially" Henry has greater assault force ( as another example an portion of hi Psychy almost defeated Maxima in the astral plane where she's supposed to be boss, was too much "sheer power for her' and she had to psycho analyze him for the win). Henry however has no where near the TP resistence of many TPers on their level. It was stated as far back as Infinity Inc's first dozen or so issues that he can't even close his mind off to thoughts around him. he always has hundreds of minds in his at once. That was the reason he went insane.

Just saying I wouldn't short sell BW as a tper, he could mind read/scan everyone on the planet in Millennium, and could TP force two whole armies to commit suicide by standing at point blank and making them fire on each other.

Originally posted by beatboks
You say that as though Henry King Jr is of no consequence. TP wise he's close to MMH league easily. In TP offense perhaps even slightly higher, though in a TP battle he would loose to Jonn' which I'll explain shortly.

Let's remember that the strength of mind that Mehen give BA allowed him to resist Jonn's TP assault in WWIII (this is one of a few examples of where BA and caps powers vary but i know you'll never see my way on that). Yet that same mental strength could not prevent Henry from breaching his defenses in 52. BA certainly sorted that out with a quick threat.

The reason why Jonn's would always win in a TP battle against Henry even though "potentially" Henry has greater assault force ( as another example an portion of hi Psychy almost defeated Maxima in the astral plane where she's supposed to be boss, was too much "sheer power for her' and she had to psycho analyze him for the win). Henry however has no where near the TP resistence of many TPers on their level. It was stated as far back as Infinity Inc's first dozen or so issues that he can't even close his mind off to thoughts around him. he always has hundreds of minds in his at once. That was the reason he went insane.

Just saying I wouldn't short sell BW as a tper, he could mind read/scan everyone on the planet in Millennium, and could TP force two whole armies to commit suicide by standing at point blank and making them fire on each other.

BTW, can you post BW scanning everyone on planet in millenium?

Originally posted by abhilegend
While Hal was totally inexperienced with his powers and still owned Joker's psyche while Manhunter got owned by it. Totally incomparable.

Of course he was. Thanos nearly tentacled raped him by an ambush. A very high end showing doesn't negate something previously done. Other mindraped him and was unable to break a normal human's will in the very same story.

😂

He was also getting beat up by Ego and ran away from Thor's godblast. A weak spectre nearly tore down heaven, hell and every thing in between according to superman in Day of Judgement and casually turned Neron into glass. Galactus got stalemated by surfer's whipping boy Mephisto.

😂

What level of TP is that? We've seen Loki nearly stalemate Odin's TP. He isn't. At all. Nope.

He isn't. At all.

Nope.

Why? A feat is a feat.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/newgod.jpg

Darkseid has created several realities too BTW. Nearly destroyed the whole of existence by Omega energies.

What hyperbolic commentary? New Gods have done it too on panel.

Actually yes. He got turned into Teth Adam in the very same issue with a glance. He owned Thunderbolt with a gesture too and depowered Mxy.

Hahaha. Spectre would own Odin like a weak feeb. In actual marvel and DC crossovers he is more of a peer to LT than feebs like Odin and Galactus. Remind us of how Galactus fared against Krona and who overpowered the merging of marvel and DC universes which was done by things like IG, CCU and shit? Ah yes, the hooded fella.

Of course it is. How did IG held when stopping the colliding of two universes? We take recent materials, don't we?

Thanos was beaten down like a punk despite mind gem powered Moondragon's assistance. You're exaggerating.

Except when that particular showing is the more recent feat. Think.

Weakened, starved almost to the point of death. IIRC, he also practically beat Ego before Thor chased him off with his Godblast. The very same godblast which has been used in conjunction with 3 other similar godblasts to hold the sagging walls of the Marvel Multiverse. A hungry Galactus nearly beat Mephisto in the latter's own realm, conditions under which Mephisto is nigh-omnipotent. Mephisto isn't the Surfer's whipping boy, it's actually the other way round. Your lying/lowballing is horrible at this point.

Try rectifying Warrior's madness level of tp. Lol, when has Loki ever stalemated Odin telepathically?

Point out some feats then.

Yes.

What feat? A hyperbolic statement which is worth jacksquat in a forum debate? I understand that you're trying desperately to ascertain that New Gods from Morrison's run(which ultimately culminated in Final Crisis), are the only versions of the characters we can use in a debate, but sorry, that kind of power is only possessed by a mod. Last I checked, you're not a mod. There is not a single universe being forged shown in that scan. I have seen enough on-panel feats of truly powerful characters actually designing a universe(Lucifer, Franklin Richards, Caitlin Fairchild at the conclusion of Gen13, HoM Wanda, the Celestials etc.) and that scan means didly squat compared to all these real feats of Creation.

That doesn't seem as much of a reality creation as it appears that the Omega Sanction is simply repeatedly shifting its form to adapt into the most suitable prison in order to best torment its prisoners. Which is exactly what it does. I have a hunch that you knew so much, but for some reason, you have to exaggerate that.

He got one punch-impaled by Bladam. Horrid showing. Mxy is also his superior. He has owned him at least twice(one being the Emperor Joker arrc) that I recall of, and both times that was a high-end Spectre.

Yes, because crossovers are somehow an indication of these characters perform in a forum fight. It's not as if forum rules explicitly forbid the usage of crossovers to gauge how characters perform against one another in a forum fight. Sorry kiddo, but if the Spectre is the peer of the Living Tribunal, then He-Man is a peer(at the very least, superior at the very best considering how he killed him) of Superman.

CCUs are nothing compared to Galactus either. A Cube Being openly admitted that it's orders of magnitude inferior to a Celestial, which guess what, is a peer to the likes of Galactus. Heck, the Red Skull, after obtaining godlike from a cosmic cube, coveted tech from Galactus's ship, which he considered superior to the cube. Tech Galactus himself doesn't give 2 sh1ts about. You do realize that IGs have been gimped enormously the last couple years, don't you? Council of Reeds ring a bell?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ok, don't blame it on me that shit was printed in a comic.

Originally posted by Epicurus
He was eventually beaten down as well and turned trapped in a birdcage.

I have seen enough on-panel feats of truly powerful characters actually designing a universe(Lucifer, Franklin Richards, Caitlin Fairchild at the conclusion of Gen13, HoM Wanda, the Celestials etc.) and that scan means didly squat compared to all these [b]real feats of Creation.

That doesn't seem as much of a reality creation as it appears that the Omega Sanction is simply repeatedly shifting its form to adapt into the most suitable prison in order to best torment its prisoners.

Which is exactly what it does. I have a hunch that you knew so much, but for some reason, you have to exaggerate that.

He got one punch-impaled by Bladam.

Horrid showing. Mxy is also his superior. He has owned him at least twice(one being the Emperor Joker arrc) that I recall of, and both times that was a high-end Spectre.

Yes, because crossovers are somehow an indication of these characters perform in a forum fight.

It's not as if forum rules explicitly forbid the usage of crossovers to gauge how characters perform against one another in a forum fight.

Sorry kiddo, but if the Spectre is the peer of the Living Tribunal, then He-Man is a peer(at the very least, superior at the very best considering how he killed him) of Superman.

CCUs are nothing compared to Galactus either. A Cube Being openly admitted that it's orders of magnitude inferior to a Celestial, which guess what, is a peer to the likes of Galactus.

Heck, the Red Skull, after obtaining godlike from a cosmic cube, coveted tech from Galactus's ship, which he considered superior to the cube.

Tech Galactus himself doesn't give 2 sh1ts about.

You do realize that IGs have been gimped enormously the last couple years, don't you? Council of Reeds ring a bell? [/B]

Originally posted by Epicurus
Stop bringing it up. It makes you look like a sh1t debater. Read their actual encounters, in one of which an amped X looks like a total weak feeb compared to a weakened Galactusduring their telepathic confrontation. I am guessing you already have, but want to ignore those actual showings in favor of useless Bendis-written hyperbole.

Not sure what is happening here, but my guess is abhi wants to convince people that Galactus could not mind rape Superman in 0.0001 seconds ?

That's why Doom owned him with a CCU.

What? Doom dont said Galactus power >>> Cosmic Cube ?

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Not sure what is happening here, but my guess is abhi wants to convince people that Galactus could not mind rape Superman in 0.0001 seconds ?

What? Doom dont said Galactus power >>> Cosmic Cube ?

When you don't know about something, its better to shut up. Its not about Galactus/Superman at all. Its about TGK's hilarious attempts to somehow negate all the feats of DC characters as hyperboles.

Doom said Galactus' power>>CCU or the combined power level of several artifacts>>CCU after he stripped Galactus of his power with CCU?

Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm

When you don't know about something, its better to shut up. Its not about Galactus/Superman at all. Its about TGK's hilarious attempts to somehow negate all the feats of DC characters as hyperboles.

Doom said Galactus' power>>CCU or the combined power level of several artifacts>>CCU after he stripped Galactus of his power with CCU?

Have you read the comic? Spectre was overpowered because he was in Joker's mind which made it Joker's turf or something.

The fact that MM in one showing could beaten by Spectre, yet in soul wars MM was able to connect Spectre's mind should send red flags that Spectre's mind at the time wasn't at his peak.

You don't want me to bring Galactus' low end feats here.

silver surfer has created illusions which fooled him at one point,

Dr. Strange knocked him out with a mental attack while he was weakened etc

Anyway Spectre has several cosmic entities failing to enter his mind

, not have a prolonged TP fight with a skyfather like Odin.

By all means forget that Odin was the dude that could fix Warrior Madness in Thor, when Moondragon/Thanos couldn't.

Quan...I think ABHI is scared to face you.

Originally posted by carver9
Quan...I think ABHI is scared to face you.