Hyperion vs. Majestic and Icon

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

The machine is a lot smaller.

I'm sorry, but either you're blind, trolling or just plain dumb. No matter how much you deny it, on panel evidence won't change.


I'm not blind,I give you scan when machine on the rogue planet how big,you Ignore it,and i give you when machine on the mars,iron man on the bottom of the machine,you ignore it too,when that can prove how big of the machine,or at least get rough idea for how big of the machine

And I've posted two scans showing that it's a lot smaller then you're implying.

Anyways, I'm done with this discussion as it's going nowhere. You already made up your mind.

It's was much smaller than rogue planet,but that still too big for a planet,if rogue planet as big as earth

Originally posted by a88378438
Well,this is rogue planet and earth in the same space scan,it's not really from normal space to comparison of their size
anyway,I'm just give your a point,you isnt need hate me,This tone is not necessary
Originally posted by a88378438
It's was much smaller than rogue planet,but that still too big for a planet,if rogue planet as big as earth

Yes it is. Didn't you look at the cropped scan I provided? It showed the machine in DIRECT comparison to the rogue planet (which it shares the same space with) without the issues caused by perspective. It's a tiny lump on its top. This is consistent to the machine's scale in comparison to Mars and consistent with how it would measure up to Earth given those comparisons.

There was NEVER a time where the machine was directly scaled with the characters and your theory of some random machine parts that could look like a crapton of other parts of a machine of that size is extremely weak that it, of course, should just be ignored, especially since a direct full page comparison exists.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Yes it is. Didn't you look at the cropped scan I provided? It showed the machine in DIRECT comparison to the rogue planet (which it shares the same space with) without the issues caused by perspective. It's a tiny lump on its top. This is consistent to the machine's scale in comparison to Mars and consistent with how it would measure up to Earth given those comparisons.

There was NEVER a time where the machine was directly scaled with the characters and your theory of some random machine parts that could look like a crapton of other parts of a machine of that size is extremely weak that it, of course, should just be ignored, especially since a direct full page comparison exists.


But that normal space to comparison of their size,it's happen when rogue planet and earth into same space,if we know how big of them we need comparion of their size in the normal space not when each other into same space,that not a good show

SMH. Again. Rogue planet and the machine shares the same space (as the machine is PHYSICALLY on the rogue planet when it was activated). Pls look at how big the machine is in direct non-perspective comparison.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
SMH. Again. Rogue planet and the machine shares the same space (as the machine is PHYSICALLY on the rogue planet when it was activated). Pls look at how big the machine is in direct non-perspective comparison.

It's look at very big,though

I think this is good show how big of the machine,when it's on the rogue planet:
Anyway,i found when machine on the mars,iron man on the bottom of the machine,it's could be to know how big of the machine,then rogue planet

Originally posted by a88378438
It's look at very big,though

facepalm

Here is the machine on the rogue planet (which share the same physical space):

Taken from this scan with a DIRECT comparison of the machine vs Earth AND the rogue planet.

If you don't get it by now, you're hopeless...

Originally posted by Nibedicus
facepalm

Here is the machine on the rogue planet (which share the same physical space):

Taken from this scan with a DIRECT comparison of the machine vs Earth AND the rogue planet.

If you don't get it by now, you're hopeless...


I see it,the machine is very big,but that not really comparison earth,because that not from normal space to comparison their of size,this scan it's show us when rogue planet into earth,they are in the same space,which isnt a real comparison

It looks like we gotta go full spoonfeed mode now....

Ok, answer this, does the rogue planet and the machine share the same space (yes/no)?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
It looks like we gotta go full spoonfeed mode now....

Ok, answer this, does the rogue planet and the machine share the same space (yes/no)?


Yes,but not same size

Originally posted by a88378438
Yes,but not same size

Seeing as they share the same space, then there is no reason to assume that their sizes get affected in relation to each other (yes/no)?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Seeing as they share the same space, then there is no reason to assume that their sizes get affected in relation to each other (yes/no)?

I dont agree with that,if you choise scan,the rogue planet should be much bigger than earth,but that mean iron man machine must be as big as moon or close to moon of size,which is obviously wrong

Originally posted by a88378438
I dont agree with that,if you choise scan,the rogue planet should be much bigger than earth,but that mean iron man machine must be as big as moon or close to moon of size,which is obviously wrong

There's nothing in my question that alludes to a size measurement. Just an establishing of logical parameters.

Again, is there any reason/evidence that alludes to a change of size between the machine and the rogue planet IN RELATION TO EACH OTHER (yes/no)?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
There's nothing in my question that alludes to a size measurement. Just an establishing of logical parameters.

Again, is there any reason/evidence that alludes to a change of size between the machine and the rogue planet IN RELATION TO EACH OTHER (yes/no)?


If you want to discussion, I'd like to, but it is not necessary to treat me like a child
I found when machine on the mars,iron man on the bottom of the machine,then it's should be know how big of machine,and i give you when machine on the rogue planet,it's look like very big
but what this?I mean,it's look like isnt like machine
http://imgur.com/ewv9l4K
See?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114397/3534449-5870089501-35339.jpg
that not machine's top

Lol. This just keeps getting better and better. facepalm

Are you saying the artist just drew a random machine-like structure of similar color and approximate shape (given artistic license given distance) for laughs and decided NOT to include the ACTUAL machine?

😂

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Lol. This just keeps getting better and better. facepalm

Are you saying the artist just drew a random machine-like structure of similar color and approximate shape (given artistic license given distance) for laughs and decided NOT to include the ACTUAL machine?

😂


You scan show the machine's top was convex,but when machine on the rogue planet,it's concave,I dont think that not machine,just not top,we dont know that which part of machine,also,you cant comparison it,when each other into same space,that not normal space,which isnt enough credible,but when machine on the mars,you can see iron man,ms marvel,caption amertion on the bottom of the machine,and writer show whole machine size on Mars,by the size,you can rough to know how big of the machine then how big of the rogue planet
though,that my point

Originally posted by a88378438
You scan show the machine's top was convex,but when machine on the rogue planet,it's concave,I dont think that not machine,just not top,we dont know that which part of machine,

When a round object is tilted away from the viewer, it tends to take that shape. Notice the antennae on top of the machine? It's there, too, use that for scale.

Also, artistic liscense in terms of distancing. It's not as if this is the first time an artist has made shortcuts in terms of details when an object is drawn from very far away. SMH.

Originally posted by a88378438
also,you cant comparison it,when each other into same space,that not normal space,which isnt enough credible,

The machine and the planet shared the same space. There is no reason that their representation of size in relation to each other should change. At this moment, you're just grasping at straws.

Either you post evidence on why their sizes in relation to each other would change or concede. Put up or shut up.

Originally posted by a88378438
but when machine on the mars,you can see iron man,ms marvel,caption amertion on the bottom of the machine,and writer show whole machine size on Mars,by the size,you can rough to know how big of the machine then how big of the rogue planet though,that my point

You don't have the comic, I do. There was never a time when the machine and Iron Man/Cap was scaled directly with the actual machine.

What you have is a THEORY about a RANDOM part of the ship that may as well be ANY OTHER RANDOM part of the ship that just may have many parts that look similar to each other. You have no proof that this part of the machine is the exact same part of the machine, they just look similar (actually, not even all that similar tbh).

Do you realize how weak your "evidence" is? You're requiring that our evidence be beyond reproach yet you cling to an extremely weak, theoretical, pretty damn near baseless concept and pretty much hold onto it for dear life even though you've been presented numerous corroborative evidence that proves that it is not the case...

At this point, you're just saying things just so that you'd have something to say h1-style.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
When a round object is tilted away from the viewer, it tends to take that shape. Notice the antennae on top of the machine? It's there, too, use that for scale.

Also, artistic liscense in terms of distancing. It's not as if this is the first time an artist has made shortcuts in terms of details when an object is drawn from very far away. SMH.

The machine and the planet shared the same space. There is no reason that their representation of size in relation to each other should change. At this moment, you're just grasping at straws.

Either you post evidence on why their sizes in relation to each other would change or concede. Put up or shut up.

You don't have the comic, I do. There was never a time when the machine and Iron Man/Cap was scaled directly with the actual machine.

What you have is a THEORY about a RANDOM part of the ship that may as well be ANY OTHER RANDOM part of the ship that just may have many parts that look similar to each other. You have no proof that this part of the machine is the exact same part of the machine, they just look similar (actually, not even all that similar tbh).

Do you realize how weak your "evidence" is? You're requiring that our evidence be beyond reproach yet you cling to an extremely weak, theoretical, pretty damn near baseless concept and pretty much hold onto it for dear life even though you've been presented numerous corroborative evidence that proves that it is not the case...

At this point, you're just saying things just so that you'd have something to say h1-style.


Your mood is disgusting,even i'm wrong,This also proves that you are rude to the people,i dont want to debate it's was machine top or not,just give you my point,it's look like isnt machine top from my EYES,though,when iron man on the bottom of machine,it's was same bottom,When the machine image magnification, You can see ms marvel on the bottom,how big of she,then to know how big of the machine,it's very clear