Sauron vs. Ganondorf (Twilight Princess)

Started by BloodRain21 pages

So when at the start of a hero move, despite the fact that they're now taking extreme damage, the scene when a street thug counts knocked them down counts so long as nothing explains that they gained a durability increase?

Originally posted by BloodRain
So when at the start of a hero move, despite the fact that they're now taking extreme damage, the scene when a street thug counts knocked them down counts so long as nothing explains that they gained a durability increase?
Different circumstances as they weren't the same so you need to prove it.

Did you forget the Triforce?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Did you forget the Triforce?
Prove it amps his durability.

Keep track of the convo, will ya?

I likined this situation to any hero flick.

You say its different as they weren't the same, implying that something has to change.

I remind you that Link did change from the two points as he gained the Triforce.

I mean do you believe you can say no other hero is stronger unless their upgrade states they their durability specifically increases?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Keep track of the convo, will ya?

I likined this situation to any hero flick.

You say its different as they weren't the same, implying that something has to change.

I remind you that Link did change from the two points as he gained the Triforce.

I mean do you believe you can say no other hero is stronger unless their upgrade states they their durability specifically increases?

He gets slightly stronger through experience just like any bodybuilder. The Triforce doesn't do anything sans aid in his courage for the most part.

Same cant be said for those hero's who get something that doesn't state a durability increase?

The very fact that you belive the ToC supplies courage only shows how much about LoS you truly know.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Same cant be said for those hero's who get something that doesn't state a durability increase?

The very fact that you belive the ToC supplies courage only shows how much about LoS you truly know.

I said mainly but it doesn't matter. If you can't prove it you concede.

Ah mainly. Meaning you're picking and choosing which ones you want? Kinda biased.

You asked me to prove he's mote durable.

I point out that he in literally tanking damage far above what he was capable of at the start.

That is evidence with both basic logic and visual aid.

What was your counter?

To say that its different, or make admitted hypothetical reasons.

Ove backed up the claim. If you need more give me a reason to supply more by creating doubt you can prove. I'm other words back up your counter-claim.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Ah mainly. Meaning you're picking and choosing which ones you want? Kinda biased.

You asked me to prove he's mote durable.

I point out that he in literally tanking damage far above what he was capable of at the start.

That is evidence with both basic logic and visual aid.

What was your counter?

To say that its different, or make admitted hypothetical reasons.

Ove backed up the claim. If you need more give me a reason to supply more by creating doubt you can prove. I'm other words back up your counter-claim.

No, I am looking at all scenarios. It's like comparing a higher end surfer durability showing to a lower end one and saying his durability changed which isn't the case.

It depends: in that Surfer situation did anything major affect him between those situations?

If not, its not the same. If so, that's likely the reason.

Whether or not you want to accept that the ToC is amping him, the fact is that Link went through a major plot change between those two instances which /does/ point to a reason for difference.

Originally posted by BloodRain
It depends: in that Surfer situation did anything major affect him between those situations?

If not, its not the same. If so, that's likely the reason.

Whether or not you want to accept that the ToC is amping him, the fact is that Link went through a major plot change between those two instances which /does/ point to a reason for difference.

Just different showings. No one argues huger end durability or lower end like you would.

Nah.

It didn't amp his durability since you can't prove it. Claim denied.

When did I claim it did in that post?

I'm stating that two contrasting events happened, and one major changed happened between them. Forgetting for a moment that people remark of his increase or that he can scuffle with Gorons without having his body severed from his Iron boots..

Originally posted by BloodRain
When did I claim it did in that post?

I'm stating that two contrasting events happened, and one major changed happened between them. Forgetting for a moment that people remark of his increase or that he can scuffle with Gorons without having his body severed from his Iron boots..

You need to prove it amped his durability otherwise it's just two different situations and showings.

You made the claim so prove it.

Thats not the claim. Are you even reading this?

The claim is thus: Link was downed by a weak enemy, then a magical change happened, and then he tanks the bosses hits.

1. Cannot deny that Link was KO'd by a common, weak Bulblin. Simple visual proof.

2. Cannot deny that Link gained access to the ToC between the two events. Canon proof.

3. Cannot deny that Link later on tanked the much more powerful King Bulblins attack. Simple visual proof.

Gonna reiterate again because I'm betting myself your next post will be "prove the Triforce blah blah".. The claim is not about the Trifore, its about the fact that like in all the other fictions this happens in, Link is majorly different between the two instances and there is only one thing to point at. (Don't fail the thread by thinking its about the TF again..)

Again, adding the the fact that characters are admitting that Link is stronger and different from before. Including King Bulblin himself.. And ya cant chalk it up to experience unless you believe its normal to go from Goat strength one day to throwing room-filling rock beasts and house sized ice chunks the next..

Originally posted by The Scenario

Link is amped by special powers.

Anyway, this thread is off topic. Ganondorf steps on Sauron.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Thats not the claim. Are you even reading this?

The claim is thus: Link was downed by a weak enemy, then a magical change happened, and then he tanks the bosses hits.

1. Cannot deny that Link was KO'd by a common, weak Bulblin. Simple visual proof.

2. Cannot deny that Link gained access to the ToC between the two events. Canon proof.

3. Cannot deny that Link later on tanked the much more powerful King Bulblins attack. Simple visual proof.

Gonna reiterate again because I'm betting myself your next post will be "prove the Triforce blah blah".. The claim is [b]not about the Trifore, its about the fact that like in all the other fictions this happens in, Link is majorly different between the two instances and there is only one thing to point at. (Don't fail the thread by thinking its about the TF again..)

Again, adding the the fact that characters are admitting that Link is stronger and different from before. Including King Bulblin himself.. And ya cant chalk it up to experience unless you believe its normal to go from Goat strength one day to throwing room-filling rock beasts and house sized ice chunks the next.. [/B]

His skill level and formidability changes due to his experience and training. Quit making up things you can't prove. It is that simple.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Link is amped by special powers.

Anyway, this thread is off topic. Ganondorf steps on Sauron.

Nothing here even alludes to durability amps. Quit pretending. Sauron swings his mace and Dorf dies quicker than Link cutting him up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nothing here even alludes to durability amps. Quit pretending. Sauron swings his mace and Dorf dies quicker than Link cutting him up.

Except for Link being stated to have special Triforce granted powers. That was easy.

Ganon steps on Sauron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His skill level and formidability changes due to his experience and training. Quit making up things you can't prove. It is that simple.
So claim is that training and experience increased his physical stats?

Hah okay, regardless of which way his stats still increased.