Sauron vs. Ganondorf (Twilight Princess)

Originally posted by quanchi112
What ?

We have Asura, the guy with planetary strength, fighting mooks like mutated apes and not obliterating them. No one would ever use this as reasons for him not being that strong. And this is Asura an Kratos, two known for their brutality and going all out on anything.

If they're not making people explode from their slightest touch in the game, Link doesn't need to. This is how games work. Realistically Asura should be launching guys into space with normal hits (as shown in a cutscene).

Originally posted by BloodRain
Like what Stealth said.

We have Asura, the guy with planetary strength, fighting mooks like mutated apes and not obliterating them. No one would ever use this as reasons for him not being that strong. And this is Asura an Kratos, two known for their brutality and going all out on anything.

If they're not making people explode from their slightest touch in the game, Link doesn't need to. This is how games work. Realistically Asura should be launching guys into space with normal hits (as shown in a cutscene).

Originally posted by StealthRanger
I don't care about the writers

Yeah Kratos can be killed, just not by anything in MovieLOTRverse, unless I'm missing something

Don't know who "kink" is, though I for one don't recall Sauron busting a castle personally in the movies

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=18921

He has not shown to be invulnerable so don't be ridiculous.

Dorc never busted a castle. Kink is when link puts on ladies clothes behind closed doors.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We only go by the evidence and I am not familiar with that game as I out it down quickly.

Asura, Kratos, Link. They all demonstrate great strength feats, and all only show a fraction of it in the combat portion of gameplay. To say that Link cannot utilize his strength in combat is to say the same of the rest.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Which is irrelevant to someone hitting link. He was drummed in his own game and would be killed by Sauron's mace.

🙂

Ganon steps on Sauron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Writers/creators are the people behind the games.

Suspernsion of disbelief method, means, nobody cares

He has not shown to be invulnerable so don't be ridiculous.

What he has shown is durability well beyond the energy output of the LOTR filmverse, I'm sorry am I missing some kind of feat for LOTR?

Dorc never busted a castle. Kink is when link puts on ladies clothes behind closed doors.

Is much more powerful than someone who did

Originally posted by BloodRain
Whether you are familiar or not means nothing. We have a character with undeniable planetary strength not vaporizing human sized mook animals. A guy who can punch a skyscraper sized deity into space but unable to knock mooks back more than a few feet in gameplay.

Asura, Kratos, Link. They all demonstrate great strength feats, and all only show a fraction of it in the combat portion of gameplay. To say that Link cannot utilize his strength in combat is to say the same of the rest.

We don't make up showings as to what Link is capable of we go based off the evidence and reach a conclusion based off the facts.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Ganon steps on Sauron.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Suspernsion of disbelief method, means, nobody cares

What he has shown is durability well beyond the energy output of the LOTR filmverse, I'm sorry am I missing some kind of feat for LOTR?

Is much more powerful than someone who did

We see him injured all the time and suggesting he is invulnerable is awful. It is like taking thebest feats and ignoring all the evidence of him being hurt by far less.

False. More formidable, sure. Not more powerful.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You cannot change the evidence though and we factor it all in. Link doesn't have any really impressive combat strength showings.

We don't make up showings as to what Link is capable of we go based off the evidence and reach a conclusion based off the facts.

The thing is you cannot say "we factor it all" when you're completely dismissing the strength we've seen from Link in sole favour of gameplay combat. You're being hypocritical to the very thing you said you abide by if these feats don't amount to anything in his strikes.

If we factor everything. Sauron's armour can be ripped by Anduril. Which is nothing compared to the Master Sword. Which literally launches the armour of Darknuts.

Link could decapitate, amputate and impale Sauron. And going from showings. Link is much faster.

Originally posted by BloodRain
And based off those facts, taking in the apes Asura cannot vaporize or launch into space.. what's the verdict? Is Asura following suit with Link and having his strength level nerfed because of this?

The thing is you cannot say "we factor it all" when you're completely dismissing the strength we've seen from Link in sole favour of gameplay combat. You're being hypocritical to the very thing you said you abide by if these feats don't amount to anything in his strikes.

I am factoring it in those instances but I'm not going to pretend he can launch people with his master sword like Sauron can because he hasn't.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
If we factor everything. Sauron's armour can be ripped by Anduril. Which is nothing compared to the Master Sword. Which literally launches the armour of Darknuts.

Link could decapitate, amputate and impale Sauron. And going from showings. Link is much faster.

Link won't get close and Sauron also has tk powers you're ignoring.

Actually. When you do Great Spin you can launch enemies with a good 7 feet of air.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree Link can hurt Sauron and vice versa.

Link won't get close and Sauron also has tk powers you're ignoring.

And you are forgetting that Link resists TK powers when equipped with the Master Sword.

Without it. He was thrown around by Zant. But with it. Zant could do nothing but shoot shit. And Gannondorf had to Physically fight Link as well.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
And you are forgetting that Link resists TK powers when equipped with the Master Sword.

Without it. He was thrown around by Zant. But with it. Zant could do nothing but shoot shit. And Gannondorf had to Physically fight Link as well.

When did he resist tk ? When did Zant try and he resisted ?

Well... why didn't Zant just TK him like before? I could tell you how from OoT. But you'll just go TP ONLY! But its the only reason I can explain why Zant and Ganondorf who both have Tk didn't just throw Link out a window.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Well... why didn't Zant just TK him like before? I could tell you how from OoT. But you'll just go TP ONLY! But its the only reason I can explain why Zant and Ganondorf who both have Tk didn't just throw Link out a window.

Link has not resisted tk in Tp. In fact he was helpless before it.

Before the Master Sword.

It happened in Oot too. Gannondorf launches Kid Link with magic. Than Adult Link with Master Sword Resists Gannondorf magic in the cut scene.

Assumedly, the same thing happened for TP.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Before the Master Sword.

It happened in Oot too. Gannondorf launches Kid Link with magic. Than Adult Link with Master Sword Resists Gannondorf magic in the cut scene.

Assumedly, the same thing happened for TP.