Originally posted by quanchi112Different fiction, different rules of physics.
Jason's machete knocks someone back twenty feet. This is fiction and I just cited an example. 🙂
Unless you care to prove that the two universes work in the same way, try to explain this again. Are you honestly saying a sword should be knocking people back like a blunt weapon. Are you not getting what a sword is used for?
Originally posted by BloodRainFuctonal universes don't always establish their own logical laws of physics. Link can fly around in that cannon and he is unharmed. The Gane is silly just like Jaskn films.
Different fiction, different rules of physics.Unless you care to prove that the two universes work in the same way, try to explain this again. Are you honestly saying a sword should be knocking people back like a blunt weapon. Are you not getting what a sword is used for?
In fiction anything is possible and just cited an example of someone doing so. Jason is impressive link not so much with his sword.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No.
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Okay, so the writers don;t adhere to any level of strength, Kratos becomes stronger than Thanos and kills him overriding his immortality, then goes onto kill the Living Tribunal and then the One Above All because the writers don't adhere to limits
Do you even listen to yourself? Or is this some kind of subtle "please take me to the euthanisation center!" plea?
We see him injured all the time
By what? By Zeus and Ares, guys on par with him physically, yeah that's definitely a low end showing. I mean, please forgive me if I missed where Sauron and Ganfald in the movies alone could raise mountains and chuck them at you
and suggesting he is invulnerable is awful.
Invulnerability is relative dumbass, every durable character has his limits on how much he can take before going down. Given Kratos has tanked hits from Zeus, Ares, Cronos and Atlas, yeah nothing in LOTR is going to harm him, at all
It is like taking thebest feats and ignoring all the evidence of him being hurt by far less.
"Waaaah I don't like those feats so I'll take only the low end showings and emphasize those as if they mean a thing and ignore all the good showings"
My all means, keep presenting yourself this way you pathetic little ****
False. More formidable, sure. Not more powerful.
So according to you Midna can produce far more magical energy than a guy who fodderised her?
Reminds me of the time dumbasses said Cell was only town level because his clash with Gohan only caused a small crater in the ground, when Cell was going to destroy the Earth
Originally posted by quanchi112You cannot state that a unique physics aspect one fictitious verse is the same as every single one.
Fuctonal universes don't always establish their own logical laws of physics. Link can fly around in that cannon and he is unharmed. The Gane is silly just like Jaskn films.In fiction anything is possible and just cited an example of someone doing so. Jason is impressive link not so much with his sword.
I mean c'mon you have a fit when people mention OoT in a TP thread, but another fictions separate facts are now canon? Free permission to use any verse laws in this thread? That could be fun.
Originally posted by StealthRangerThe writers adhere to levels of invulnerability. Strength has nothing to do with invulnerability. Thanos is too invulnerable, too intelligent, and has abilities that easily defeat Kratos along with being far more powerful.
🙄Okay, so the writers don;t adhere to any level of strength, Kratos becomes stronger than Thanos and kills him overriding his immortality, then goes onto kill the Living Tribunal and then the One Above All because the writers don't adhere to limits
Do you even listen to yourself? Or is this some kind of subtle "please take me to the euthanisation center!" plea?
By what? By Zeus and Ares, guys on par with him physically, yeah that's definitely a low end showing. I mean, please forgive me if I missed where Sauron and Ganfald in the movies alone could raise mountains and chuck them at you
Invulnerability is relative dumbass, every durable character has his limits on how much he can take before going down. Given Kratos has tanked hits from Zeus, Ares, Cronos and Atlas, yeah nothing in LOTR is going to harm him, at all
"Waaaah I don't like those feats so I'll take only the low end showings and emphasize those as if they mean a thing and ignore all the good showings"
My all means, keep presenting yourself this way you pathetic little ****
So according to you Midna can produce far more magical energy than a guy who fodderised her?
Reminds me of the time dumbasses said Cell was only town level because his clash with Gohan only caused a small crater in the ground, when Cell was going to destroy the Earth
We see him injured throughout the games. It is not just the main gods who injure him. He is formidable and relies on his skill, weapons, and formidability to conquer the gods.
Tanked does not mean took no damage. Sauron swings his made and he's going to hurt Kratos. Kratos can be killed by mooks if he just let them tee off. Formidability, skill, etc. has him overcome these odds.
I look at all the showings. I do not discount a single showing. I look at the facts and do not pick and choose what applies.
Yes, as evidenced by her feats. Dorf is more formidable but she demonstrates more raw power. The more powerfu guy or girl does not always win.
Originally posted by BloodRainI did not do so but you can't pick and choose. Zelda is ridiculous and has magic, etc. We also see a ride that launches him in the air and acts like it does not harm the person despite what reality tells us.
You cannot state that a unique physics aspect one fictitious verse is the same as every single one.I mean c'mon you have a fit when people mention OoT in a TP thread, but another fictions separate facts are now canon? Free permission to use any verse laws in this thread? That could be fun.
Someone said blades do not do that and I cited an example. Fiction.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The writers adhere to levels of invulnerability. Strength has nothing to do with invulnerability. Thanos is too invulnerable, too intelligent, and has abilities that easily defeat Kratos along with being far more powerful.
Way to miss the ****ing point dipshit
As I said, invulnerability is relative, idiot. It's called durability and everything has limits. Nothing in LOTR pushes Kratos, well based solely off the movies anyhow
We see him injured throughout the games.
Show them or get the **** out of my sight
It is not just the main gods who injure him. He is formidable and relies on his skill, weapons, and formidability to conquer the gods.
Are you seriously saying Kratos is below the gods in physical might, despite being able to overpower Zeus?
Tanked does not mean took no damage. Sauron swings his made and he's going to hurt Kratos.
Well you don't mind showing me where Sauron outputs similar force to propelling mountains very fast with telekinesis then? Maybe then he could hurt Kratos
Oh noez, sending 20 mooks flyingz! What iz I gon' do gaiz?! What hole have I dug myself! 🙄
Kratos can be killed by mooks if he just let them tee off.
Gameplay is not valid evidence of anything
Formidability, skill, etc. has him overcome these odds.
Well that and, outclassing them in every possible aspect, but downplayers gon' downplay
I look at all the showings. I do not discount a single showing. I look at the facts and do not pick and choose what applies.
AWHAWHAWHAWHAWHAWHAW! Oh no you don't, you cherry pick only the low end showings and try to emphasise them, which is not a valid way of debating, at all
Yes, as evidenced by her feats. Dorf is more formidable but she demonstrates more raw power. The more powerfu guy or girl does not always win.
Superior collateral damage=/=greater raw power
Unless you're the kind of idiot who believes that Frieza is more powerful than Cell, Sensui is more powerful than Raizen or Lion El'Jonson is superior to the God Emperor
^6-7 mooks per swing. Possibly with magic, not strength apparently.
Originally posted by quanchi112Ahh so if one fiction does /anything/ that seems off irl, it's subdued to the rules of physics from every single fictitious universe at once?
I did not do so but you can't pick and choose. Zelda is ridiculous and has magic, etc. We also see a ride that launches him in the air and acts like it does not harm the person despite what reality tells us.Someone said blades do not do that and I cited an example. Fiction.
So LotR already has magic. Check one. And it has giant elephants which defy irl biology, as well as beasts flying with incorrect body weight to wing span. Check 2. Okay now it has the same things accused of LoZ, time to pick and choose laws from other fictions right?
Originally posted by StealthRangerFalse. This is based off of any enemy being able to kill him if he doesn't fight back. This isn't some super invulnerable character. You need to reference showings of invulnerability to back this claim. I guess Smaug's fire will power him up according to you.
Way to miss the ****ing point dipshitAs I said, invulnerability is relative, idiot. It's called durability and everything has limits. Nothing in LOTR pushes Kratos, well based solely off the movies anyhow
Show them or get the **** out of my sight
Are you seriously saying Kratos is below the gods in physical might, despite being able to overpower Zeus?
Well you don't mind showing me where Sauron outputs similar force to propelling mountains very fast with telekinesis then? Maybe then he could hurt Kratos
Oh noez, sending 20 mooks flyingz! What iz I gon' do gaiz?! What hole have I dug myself! 🙄
Gameplay is not valid evidence of anything
Well that and, outclassing them in every possible aspect, but downplayers gon' downplay
AWHAWHAWHAWHAWHAWHAW! Oh no you don't, you cherry pick only the low end showings and try to emphasise them, which is not a valid way of debating, at all
Superior collateral damage=/=greater raw power
Unless you're the kind of idiot who believes that Frieza is more powerful than Cell, Sensui is more powerful than Raizen or Lion El'Jonson is superior to the God Emperor
You did not play the games at all. Sad.
I am sayings he gods can kill him whether he is stronger or not does not mean he is invulnerable to them.
So you believe his mace when swung will make Kratos feel good ? What is this based on ?
10,000 Uruk Hair for starters.
That goes to show what can and can't hurt them not cutscenes alone.
No, I don't. I use evidence to back up my points. You ignore showings.
Fears of power show or demonstrate greater power. He won but she demonstrated more power based in the feats.
Originally posted by BloodRainNo, but I provided an example. Sauron used a magical ring to amp his swings yet you want to claim swords don't do that when discussin fiction. Hypocrisy.
You cannot state that a unique physics aspect one fictitious verse is the same as every single one.I mean c'mon you have a fit when people mention OoT in a TP thread, but another fictions separate facts are now canon? Free permission to use any verse laws in this thread? That could be fun.
I am simply comparing two magical weapons here. Mace in Sauron's hands is more powerful than the in Link's hands. No need to be pissy about it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
False. This is based off of any enemy being able to kill him if he doesn't fight back. This isn't some super invulnerable character. You need to reference showings of invulnerability to back this claim. I guess Smaug's fire will power him up according to you.
Show me where "any random schmuck" can kill him or GTFO
He tanked attacks from gods and titans are can bust cities and mountains under their own power. Nothing in LOTR comes close, except Sauron's death throes, which is just a suicide move
Also "Smaug's fire powering him up", wow, you clearly cannot read can you? No, Kratos laughs it off and eviscerates Smaug
I am sayings he gods can kill him whether he is stronger or not does not mean he is invulnerable to them.
Oh they can kill him, just not easily by any stretch
So you believe his mace when swung will make Kratos feel good ? What is this based on ?
I think the term you're looking for is, Sauron hits Kratos with his mace and breaks his arm, them it promptly gets torn off and limbs go flying everywhere
10,000 Uruk Hair for starters.
Why are you mentioning some fodder tiers with medieval weapons against a dude who can tank city busters :eyeroll:
That goes to show what can and can't hurt them not cutscenes alone.
Gameplay is not valid evidence of anything. Being harmed by mooks is just gameplay mechanics. Would be a terrible game if you could one shot anything not a boss and tank everything
Fears of power show or demonstrate greater power. He won but she demonstrated more power based in the feats.
Fears of power? I know you're getting riled up and now going rage typo on me but do try to focus here
No, if he overpowered her, he can generate more energy than her, ergo, your reliance on flashy collateral displays is bullshit
Unless you believe that Freiza is more powerful than Super Perfect Cell