Sauron vs. Ganondorf (Twilight Princess)

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Show me where "any random schmuck" can kill him or GTFO

He tanked attacks from gods and titans are can bust cities and mountains under their own power. Nothing in LOTR comes close, except Sauron's death throes, which is just a suicide move

Also "Smaug's fire powering him up", wow, you clearly cannot read can you? No, Kratos laughs it off and eviscerates Smaug

Oh they can kill him, just not easily by any stretch

I think the term you're looking for is, Sauron hits Kratos with his mace and breaks his arm, them it promptly gets torn off and limbs go flying everywhere

Why are you mentioning some fodder tiers with medieval weapons against a dude who can tank city busters :eyeroll:

Gameplay is not valid evidence of anything. Being harmed by mooks is just gameplay mechanics. Would be a terrible game if you could one shot anything not a boss and tank everything

Fears of power? I know you're getting riled up and now going rage typo on me but do try to focus here

No, if he overpowered her, he can generate more energy than her, ergo, your reliance on flashy collateral displays is bullshit

Unless you believe that Freiza is more powerful than Super Perfect Cell

What attacks that hit him busted mountains ? Sauron's death put down armies but this isn't the case with Kratos. That is how you debate. Kratos would be hurt by Sauron but if you feel otherwise cite some evidence.

Based off what ?

So you concede the point. Perfect, taddle tail.

They ca hurt him. When has he taken down 10,000 foes before.

You want to ignore it due to bias. I want to look at the whole picture. Quit picking andchoosing. Feats. I mentioned feats at the end but you're avoiding my points. I am not surprised.

I don't watch Dragon Ball Z.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They don't kill him but they can harm him. Kratos doesn't let mooks wail on him. Quit twisting what I say.

Based on absolutely no feats whatsoever

What attacks that hit him busted mountains ? Sauron's death put down armies but this isn't the case with Kratos. That is how you debate. Kratos would be hurt by Sauron but if you feel otherwise cite some evidence.

Kratos tanked mountains being thrown at him by Ares, said mountains being violently fragmented, and tanked Atlas, who could hold up the Earth's crust, Zeus who's superior to Apollo who vaporised an island sized monster in the comics

Based off what ?

His durability feats, dumbass

So you concede the point. Perfect, taddle tail.

Except I never said he was beyond the God's ability to kill, do try to read quanchi kun

They ca hurt him. When has he taken down 10,000 foes before.

He tanks attacks from city busters. Are you seriously doubting his ability to take on 10,000 fodder tier beings? 🙄

You want to ignore it due to bias. I want to look at the whole picture. Quit picking andchoosing. Feats. I mentioned feats at the end but you're avoiding my points. I am not surprised.

So according to you Call of Duty protagonists are superhuman because they can survive and heal from bullets? Are you ****ing serious right now

I don't watch Dragon Ball Z.

Never said you had you, though nobody's going to be a retard and claim that Freiza is superior to Cell because Freiza busted a planet but Cell didn't, even though Cell is many orders of magnitude above Freiza

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Based on absolutely no feats whatsoever

Kratos tanked mountains being thrown at him by Ares, said mountains being violently fragmented, and tanked Atlas, who could hold up the Earth's crust, Zeus who's superior to Apollo who vaporised an island sized monster in the comics

His durability feats, dumbass

Except I never said he was beyond the God's ability to kill, do try to read quanchi kun

He tanks attacks from city busters. Are you seriously doubting his ability to take on 10,000 fodder tier beings? 🙄

So according to you Call of Duty protagonists are superhuman because they can survive and heal from bullets? Are you ****ing serious right now

Never said you had you, though nobody's going to be a retard and claim that Freiza is superior to Cell because Freiza busted a planet but Cell didn't, even though Cell is many orders of magnitude above Freiza

While in giant form ? Ares killed him with far less than a mountain when he hurled something into him. Evidence, loser. Comics are irrelevant here. Quit running from the evidence.

Such as ?

You already conceded.

You still have yet to prove this. Any mook can hurt him from the game. Quit avoiding this crucial point.

Quit refusing to discuss what I just said by making an irrelevant point.

Calm down. You watch dragon ball z. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yet not shattering Link or Midna. Sauron also effortlessly destroyed massive walls and structures but who cares. Sauron is far more impressive when he swings his weapon than Dorf.

Because Link and Midna are durable, yes. That's fine, since Ganon is a lot more lethal than Sauron anyway.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You act as I find you have not played them game. He is clearly affected by his enemies.

Still waiting for the actual feats of this

While in giant form ? Ares killed him with far less than a mountain when he hurled something into him. Evidence, loser. Comics are irrelevant here. Quit running from the evidence.

Or said pillar was actually just that ****ing powerful? You need to learn that not all good feats have to have super flashy collateral displays

Such as ?

Have you seriously got so desperate to the point you're just ignoring the things that don't suit you

You already conceded.

Key thing dumbass, I never said the gods could never kill him, only that he was durable enough to be one shotted by them

You still have yet to prove this. Any mook can hurt him from the game. Quit avoiding this crucial point.

Show me an actual ****ing feat not from gameplay where a no name schmuck actually hurts him or get out of my sight

Gameplay is not valid evidence, otherwise first person shooter characters who don't wear some kind of fancy armor are superhuman because they can tank bullets and just walk them off, or trees can survive 125mm's

Quit refusing to discuss what I just said by making an irrelevant point.

Oh it's very relevant, now tell me, do you believe CoD protagonists are superhuman and have regen because they can tank bullets and keep going as well as recover health over time?

Calm down. You watch dragon ball z. 😂

Well at least DBZ is a quality series. Better than Harry Potter at least

You know it's weird that Quan regularly champions weaker versions of a setting. Book LotR would run a train on TP, but he supports the much weaker movie versions.

Sauron or Osse could questionably solo the TP setting, speaking of which

Originally posted by NemeBro
You know it's weird that Quan regularly champions weaker versions of a setting. Book LotR would run a train on TP, but he supports the much weaker movie versions.

Probably because it requires less investment on his part, and I'd say it's also the reason for this redundantly boring "vs TP" shit. Growth, change, progress, and learning make him uncomfortable. Hence, he would rather just perpetuate the same unimaginative crap.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, but I provided an example. Sauron used a magical ring to amp his swings yet you want to claim swords don't do that when discussin fiction. Hypocrisy.

I am simply comparing two magical weapons here. Mace in Sauron's hands is more powerful than the in Link's hands. No need to be pissy about it.

YouTube video
1:05 - 1:15

Each strike is accompanied by a flash of light.

Lol what? A ring making someone stronger means a sword acting like blunt weapons in another fiction is something that is to be considered?

No, what you're doing is saying Link's sword slashes should knock people back as if it was a blunt weapon 😐

Originally posted by The Scenario
Because Link and Midna are durable, yes. That's fine, since Ganon is a lot more lethal than Sauron anyway.

Based on what ?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Still waiting for the actual feats of this

Or said pillar was actually just that ****ing powerful? You need to learn that not all good feats have to have super flashy collateral displays

Have you seriously got so desperate to the point you're just ignoring the things that don't suit you

Key thing dumbass, I never said the gods could never kill him, only that he was durable enough to be one shotted by them

Show me an actual ****ing feat not from gameplay where a no name schmuck actually hurts him or get out of my sight

Gameplay is not valid evidence, otherwise first person shooter characters who don't wear some kind of fancy armor are superhuman because they can tank bullets and just walk them off, or trees can survive 125mm's

Oh it's very relevant, now tell me, do you believe CoD protagonists are superhuman and have regen because they can tank bullets and keep going as well as recover health over time?

Well at least DBZ is a quality series. Better than Harry Potter at least

Ares was a lot more powerful so of course that killed him. Kratos has been killed in a lot of the games. He is not invincible.

What am I ignoring ?

You conceded. I accepted. Glorious.

Two Bulbin mooks ko him. Boom. 😂

False.

Originally posted by BloodRain
YouTube video
1:05 - 1:15

Each strike is accompanied by a flash of light.

Lol what? A ring making someone stronger means a sword acting like blunt weapons [b]in another fiction is something that is to be considered?

No, what you're doing is saying Link's sword slashes should knock people back as if it was a blunt weapon 😐 [/B]

The ms is a magical sword that can be parried and is not as powerful as Sauron's mace when used by him. He'd annihilate Dorf in combat.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Probably because it requires less investment on his part, and I'd say it's also the reason for this redundantly boring "vs TP" shit. Growth, change, progress, and learning make him uncomfortable. Hence, he would rather just perpetuate the same unimaginative crap.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hey, I challenged Zelda fans against the mighty VoldeVerse but a zelda fan backed out. Cry more.

"VoldeVerse?" Not only does that have nothing to do with my statement, but... that's phucking retarded. (That's all I can really say to that.) haermm

Originally posted by Sacred 117
"VoldeVerse?" Not only does that have nothing to do with my statement, but... that's phucking retarded. (That's all I can really say to that.) haermm

Originally posted by quanchi112
Laugh at the fact I punked Hyrule. I own that shitty land.

Then why back out on Scream's deal? (Lords of Plagiarism Shadow vs. Skyward Sword)?

Like I said, you're obviously afraid to learn because you're scared of the realizations you'll come to. That's okay. I won't judge you for it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is a fictional matchup where a ring can boost Someones power and it's all fantasy. The ring is Sauron's and thus it is too bad for Link he is not as powerful with his Ms that Sauron is when he swings his weapon.

The ms is a magical sword that can be parried and is not as powerful as Sauron's mace when used by him. He'd annihilate Dorf in combat.

Okay you're clearly dodging the point intentionally. No song and dance will cover this. Strait to the point question: As the point of this argument is to say how 'logically' Link not launching people back means he's not that strong, are you saying that 'logically' Link's slashes should knock people back as if it were a blunt weapon, not the sword that it is?

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Then why back out on Scream's deal? (Lords of Plagiarism Shadow vs. Skyward Sword)?

Like I said, you're obviously afraid to learn because you're scared of the realizations you'll come to. That's okay. I won't judge you for it.

Originally posted by BloodRain
You saw the video, so now explain where the light came from.

Okay you're clearly dodging the point intentionally. No song and dance will cover this. Strait to the point question: As the point of this argument is to say how 'logically' Link not launching people back means he's not that strong, are you saying that 'logically' Link's slashes should knock people back as if it were a blunt weapon, not the sword that it is?

It does not matter. Sauron launches people in the air an both characters world magical weapons. I couldn't care less about you theorizing on what may or may not be occurring when it does not matter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am playing Dragon Age Inquisition but do you really want to see Hyrule burn again ?

With your extensive history of redundant, lopsided bullshit, it'd be a miracle to see you "burn" it at all. (You would probably need our help.)

link-rape

(On another note, DA:I sounds f**king awesome. awesome)