Supergirl vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by h1a8
Bullets have nothing to do with this thread. WW can be pierced by bullets yet take Superman's most powerful punches without being killed or penetrated by them. We just chalk it up to comic logic or it is her magical weakness (when the cross sectional area of an object is below a certain point then she can be pierced by it).

Anyway. I believe that SG is stronger (not by a lot). Not sure about durability though. SG may be a little more durable against punches but WW has larger damage soak (not by a lot).

SG should win this. But it will be close.
But make no mistake, if skill and weaponry were allowed against SG (full powers) then I would argue that WW wins.

Originally posted by light889
I don't see sg winning.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Originally posted by zopzop
I just think SG is stronger, faster, and more durable than WW. WW got the combat training but without that lasso, it's SG's fight to lose.

Thanks Stilt.

WW has been shown capable of fighting and matching sg's physical power without the need of her lasso.

Originally posted by light889
I don't really see sg as stronger or more durable. They are always shown to be peers. WW is mentioned in comics as being stronger than her, and the strongest female hero on earth.

Diana hasn't been stated to be stronger than her, Kara is also stated to be most powerful heroine in the world too.

And when WW 175 was published, Kara wasn't introduced yet. Diana has herself admitted that Power Girl is at least as strong as her.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/147304/2887985-2817089_wonderwoman04112_super.jpg

And Kara is just as strong if not stronger than PG.

Originally posted by light889
WW has been shown capable of fighting and matching sg's physical power without the need of her lasso.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Diana hasn't been stated to be stronger than her, Kara is also stated to be most powerful heroine in the world too.

And when WW 175 was published, Kara wasn't introduced yet. Diana has herself admitted that Power Girl is at least as strong as her.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/147304/2887985-2817089_wonderwoman04112_super.jpg

And Kara is just as strong if not stronger than PG.

Oh really?

Here.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
When?

When they fought. And WW was shown to be capable of trading blows with sg.

Honestly, Wonder Woman can't survive, say, the sun. Someone like Black Adam probably can.

IMO, they do overplay her skill compared to clear stat disadvantages.

Originally posted by cdtm
Honestly, Wonder Woman can't survive, say, the sun. Someone like Black Adam probably can.

IMO, they do overplay her skill compared to clear stat disadvantages.

Wonder Woman has been in the surface of the sun with a bloodlusted Superman attacking her. Has taken heat vision blast that is supposed to be hotter than the sun, etc. I don't know why some of you act like WW can't take anything. She is far from being a glass cannon.

Originally posted by light889
Is Batman a clay figure brought to life by magic. Or a DemiGod. Is there anything making him capable of taking hits from heavy hitters like in WW's case? And do the majority of his durability feats involve him taking hits from heavy hitters like in WW's case? But Since you want to claim that WW taking attacks from heavy hitters in Rebirth, and in her whole 78 years of comic book history basically is pis. I guess we can do the opposite and say batman has powerhouse level of durability.

Not sure what any of this has to do with anything.

But yes, using your logic, Batman is herald level. Glad we agree 👆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not sure what any of this has to do with anything.

But yes, using your logic, Batman is herald level. Glad we agree 👆

There is a difference between batman's case of trading blows with powerhouses. And Wonder Woman having a weakness to bullets. Unlike batman, Wonder Woman is not just a flesh and bones mortal type of being. There is mystic and magic involved in her creation, that allow her to do things above human limitations. Wonder Woman will always have that mystical and magical side to back her up. She can always count on that. Since magic can do a lot of things that escape the laws of physic, but it can also have imperfections and blind spots.

Originally posted by light889
There is a difference between batman's case of fighting powerhouses. And Wonder Woman having a weakness to bullets. Unlike batman, Wonder Woman is not just a flesh and bones mortal type of being. There is mystic and magic involved in her creation, that allow her to do things above human limitations. Wonder Woman will always have that mystical and magical side to back her up. She can always count with that. Since magic can do a lot of things that escape the laws of physic, but it can also have imperfections and blind spots.

Do you have proof that bullets are her specific Achilles heel? Has it ever been outright said?

Sounds like a silly weakness for the God of War to have.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Do you have proof that bullets are her specific Achilles heel? Has it ever been outright said?

Sounds like a silly weakness for the God of War to have.

It's been shown. And she is not the god of war.

Originally posted by light889
It's been shown. And she is not the god of war.

She was.

And could you post the scan where the comic writer wrote that bullets are her Achilles heel?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She was.

And could you post the scan where the comic writer wrote that bullets are her Achilles heel?

Not anymore.

And if writers have shown that bullets can pierce her, you don't need them to say it when they are showing it. Yes it's a silly weakness, so what? A lot of weaknesses in fiction are silly. If she was invulnerable against everything, there would be the typical people that complain about characters being too overpowered. So she has a weakness, blind spot or whatver you want to call it in her durability. It's that so hard to accept?

Originally posted by light889
Not anymore.

And if writers have shown that bullets can pierce her, you don't need them to say it when they are showing it. Yes it's a silly weakness, so what? A lot of weaknesses in fiction are silly. If she was invulnerable against everything, there would be the typical people that complain about characters being too overpowered. So she has a weakness, blind spot or whatver you want to call it in her durability. It's that so hard to accept?

My point is that it silly for the God of War to be vulnerable to the deadliest weapon of warfare.

So you logic IS that Batman is herald level, lol. Because writers have shown that Batman can take punches from heralds. Good to know.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My point is that it silly for the God of War to be vulnerable to the deadliest weapon of warfare.

So you logic IS that Batman is herald level, lol. Because writers have shown that Batman can take punches from heralds. Good to know.

It's silly but there is nothing you can do. A lot of weaknesses are silly.

Not as funny as your logic. Your logic is that Wonder Woman can't take hits from havy hitters, despite the fact that having super durability to take hits from powerhouses has been in her power set for 78 years. And we continue to see her today taking hits from heavy hitters ALL THE TIME.

Originally posted by light889
It's silly but there is nothing you can do. A lot of weaknesses are silly.

'Diana is magic, so there is an Achilles heel built into her enchantments which means bullets affect her more'

Proof?

'Oh erm....I don't have any, nor do I need to prove it'

Not as funny as your logic. Your logic is that Wonder Woman can't take hits from havy hitters, despite the fact that having super durability to take hits from powerhouses has been in her power set for 78 years. And we continue to see her today taking hits from heavy hitters ALL THE TIME.

And we see the same with Batman. So to be consistent, he is herald level. As he takes hits from heavy hitters ALL THE TIME.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

But there is no such weakness - you've just twisted facts to suit your theory.

'Diana is magic, so there is an Achilles heel built into her enchantments which means bullets affect her more'

Proof?

'Oh erm....I don't have any, nor do I need to prove it'

And we see the same with Batman. So to be consistent, he is herald level. As he takes hits from heavy hitters ALL THE TIME. [/B]

Yes she is magic. Magic is part of her origin. So i didn't twist facts.

Batman takes hits from heavy hitters all the time? Funny, most of the time i see him getting hit by people with far less strength than that.

WW on the other hand is indeed taking hitts from heavy hitters all the time. Wasn't you the one who said. "doesn't matter who wrote it, it happened in canon" Well WW taking hits from heavy hitters happens in cannon ALL THE TIME. So it's time for you to accept facts.

Please post proof that she is specifically enchanted to be weak against bullets