Originally posted by operator616True, I almost forgot that Stranger was even in Astonishing Thor lol. Although he did require certain tech and formulae from the Collector in order to create Ego/Alter-Ego:
^ he created Ego and alter Ego (Galaxy-level being at the very least)
Why galaxy-level?
Originally posted by leonidas*cough*X-Men Forever*cough*
that's not to say stranger>galactic levels of power though, just to be clear. he's had MANY lesser showings to mix in with a couple of high ones. i'd give this to odin for a very solid majority.
^ Yes, though it's definitely implied that he did the majority of the work (and is superior to them), especially here in the 3rd consecutive page:
http://i.imgur.com/ixJHwCe.jpg
That would be because of Ego's battle with Galactus, for one. in thor #132/133 (i posted those before):
http://i.imgur.com/AOD1cpJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gWJJ0ZU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fBZx1Dz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7W9vul7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FaOIfP8.jpg
His bio mentions that his psionic abilities rivals that of Galactus, at their peak:
http://i.imgur.com/4v5xvWq.jpg?1
Thor The Legend, lists him with the Galactic/universal threats:
http://i.imgur.com/r2u27yC.jpg
Though i understand he has an amount of low showings.
And same thing applies to the Stranger, X-Men Forever isn't the only one, as im sure you know.
Originally posted by leonidas
that's not to say stranger>galactic levels of power though, just to be clear. he's had MANY lesser showings to mix in with a couple of high ones. i'd give this to odin for a very solid majority.
Yeah, never said that he'd win, just pointing out his feats. Though it was definitely implied that he's superior to them.
Originally posted by operator616It implies that Stranger created Ego/Alter-Ego and imbued them both his own personality... Which we knew.
^ Yes, though it's definitely implied that he did the majority of the work (and is superior to them), especially here in the 3rd consecutive page:
He still needed Collector's resources to create them, though.
Originally posted by operator616I see where you're coming from, but I personally wouldn't rank Stranger among the confirmed galactic-level beings simply because of a few high-end feats and bios from one of his creations. /shrug
That would be because of Ego's battle with Galactus, for one. in thor #132/133 (i posted those before):http://i.imgur.com/AOD1cpJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gWJJ0ZU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fBZx1Dz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7W9vul7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FaOIfP8.jpgHis bio mentions that his psionic abilities rivals that of Galactus, at their peak:
http://i.imgur.com/4v5xvWq.jpg?1
Thor The Legend, lists him with the Galactic/universal threats:
http://i.imgur.com/r2u27yC.jpg
Though i understand he has an amount of low showings.
And same thing applies to the Stranger, X-Men Forever isn't the only one, as im sure you know.
Originally posted by operator616
Yeah, never said that he'd win, just pointing out his feats. Though it was definitely implied that he's superior to them.
fair enuff. i think ego has some pretty inconsistent feats as well and the stranger retcon doesn't really make sense in some ways and caused a little inconsistency with his character both in regards to what he once told thor and in the fact that he was considered (iirc) to be one of the elders of the universe which would actually make him OLDER than the stranger. in any event, i def wouldn't put stranger above ego. same level? maybe, but if i were forced to choose, i'd take ego in a straight up battle (barring any plot device because stranger was his maker....)
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Stranger stalemated Pluto in his own realm, and feigned defeat because he realized the battle would have lasted way too long as Pluto was steadily being supplied with power.Which indicates he is below Zeus. And thus below Odin.
Yeah, apart from that, The Stranger got owned by juggernaut with a punch, and wasn't doing that well against the rest of the team in X-Men Forever (v1), same thing against a weakened silver surfer in his 1st series, not too well against overmind in Quasar, etc.... he has many low showings.
He's meant to shine when he gathers with the other members of the cosmic hierarchy, though.
