Darth Vader vs. Yoda

Started by Intrepid373 pages

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Read the novel. He finished that fight by stopping her Saber strike with TK. (Which by the way was a desperate suicide attempt by Shaak Ti).

Do you have a quote?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
She had the whole environment under her control, and her death completely shifted the balance of the Force on Felucia. Again read the novel.

That's not really sufficient.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Was being sarcastic to point out to you that the feat in mention clearly is a "Power" feat, and not just a "precision" feat like you were making out.

No, it's precision and range, not power.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But his feats are comnparable. Choking a guy who moves Star Destroyers,

When?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Choking from another solar system,

Precision and range.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
ripping apart an entire bridge,

When?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
owning Jedi via TK with ease,

Jedi of repute?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
blocking Blaster bolts with his hands,

Which is Absorption, not TK.

I'll have to get out my TFU novel when I have time to answer most of the above. Can't remember the bridge thing now, think it was RODV? Anyone?

Of course Choking someone from a great distance indicates power. That's why I brought up before that you won't find any weak or average Jedi/Sith doing that. Why? Because they're not powerful enough to.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Do you have a quote?

Right here.

"The third (blow) would have skewered his right eye had he not held her back at the last minute with a desperate telekinetic block that stopped her lightsaber barely a milimeter from his skin."

"She had, in the desperation of her final assault, practically thrown herself on (Galen's) blade. Perhaps she had meant for the two of them to defeat each other at the same time."

[QUOTE=14594222]Originally posted by Petrus
Since he got burned the shit out of his body by Obi, his lightsaber mastery lost significant prowess to it, and Yoda = RotS Sidious in this aspect, who in turn would handily beat RotS Vader.[/QUOTE

Not really. Vader's lightsabre skill improved greatly after he got burned. He displays far greater precision and economy of motion in the OT. The fact that he couldn't twirl and flip around anymore meant he had to.

Which do you think is more like real swordsmanship? ROTS style twirling and dancing around or ESB style fighting?

I think saying Vader would last 20 seconds against Yoda is a bit of an exaggeration. While I agree Yoda beats him handily, I doubt it'll be that easily. Dooku and Vader are comparable [with Vader actually having better Force feats] and Yoda certainly wouldn't own Dooku in 20 seconds.

But Dooku and Vader fight differently.

In theory Yoda shouldn't "10 second stomp" anyone whose 80% as powerful as Palpatine.

But I admit this could just be a bad clash of styles for Vader. Super agility/flexibility vs agility/flexibility weakness.

On the flip side, his higher strength may help against Yoda's low mass, and his reach advantage is greater than Dooku's, and his defense is pretty solid.

I will note when Luke won, it was not due to agility, it was due to raw power.

He's also quite capable of taking a hit and continuing fighting better than most. He's got armor, he's got cybernetic parts.

Originally posted by Q99
On the flip side, his higher strength may help against Yoda's low mass,

Right, and Yoda's own strength feat are significant.

Originally posted by Q99
and his reach advantage is greater than Dooku's,

And?

Originally posted by Q99
and his defense is pretty solid.

Sure, but not solid enough.

Originally posted by Q99
I will note when Luke won, it was not due to agility, it was due to raw power.

Because Luke, unlike Yoda, is a Djem So practitioner, which focuses on strength and power, not agility and mobility.

Originally posted by Q99
He's also quite capable of taking a hit and continuing fighting better than most. He's got armor, he's got cybernetic parts.

Right. One hit will still injure Vader nontheless, and after that, Yoda's taking him down within seconds.

Yoda...
Yoda...
Yoda....

Vader won't be able to keep up with Yoda due to the little guy constantly jumping around or taking jabs at his knees with that saber of his.