Iron Man vs Loki

Originally posted by Robtard
Thor Vs Loi fights don't prove much, as it's clear and was later stated that Thor holds back due to brotherly-love. Once Thor has enough, the fights ends very quickly.

I can't think of anything IM has in his arsenal that could put Loki down permanently though, unless his cutting-laser can cut Loki's head or a limb off.

It shows that Thor needs to take Loki seriously if he wants to beat him. It shows that Loki has enough strength, speed, and skill to give Thor a hard time.

Originally posted by FrothByte
It shows that Thor needs to take Loki seriously if he wants to beat him. It shows that Loki has enough strength, speed, and skill to give Thor a hard time.

Disagreed.

Just look at the fight on the Stark building as proof. They traded some blows (no homo), Thor did his usual 'try to reason with you bro' routine, it backfires and the second Thor has enough of Loki's antics, he finishes the fight and Loki has to flee. Similar to their fight at the end of Thor and Loki had presumably the second most powerful Asgardian weapon in his hands.

Shows me Thor could curb-stomp Loki at any given time, should he really want to. Not sure how Thor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Loki is hard to imagine.

But on topic. Still think Loki only needs to tank IM's arsenal and wait for an opportunity.

Originally posted by Robtard
Disagreed.

Just look at the fight on the Stark building as proof. They traded some blows (no homo), Thor did his usual 'try to reason with you bro' routine, it backfires and the second Thor has enough of Loki's antics, he finishes the fight and Loki has to flee. Similar to their fight at the end of Thor and Loki had presumably the second most powerful Asgardian weapon in his hands.

Shows me Thor could curb-stomp Loki at any given time, should he really want to. Not sure how Thor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Loki is hard to imagine.

But on topic. Still think Loki only needs to tank IM's arsenal and wait for an opportunity.

Disagreed as well. Loki fled from Thor in the tower... but Thor didn't actually put that much of a beating on him. Call him a wuss or whatever, he was still skilled enough not to get a beating from Thor. Yes, Thor is more powerful and is a better fighter. But Loki isn't so far behind. Thor still needs to put effort when he wants to beat Loki.

Thor put about as much effort into beating Loki as he did IM. The difference is, IM came out from his fight with Thor damaged, Loki came out unaffected.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Not the second time (when he lost the stand off). Unless he wanted to get captured to let the Avengers get the staff, to then close the portal... No? Thought not.

He stabbed Thor when Thor was trying to reason with him, and that basically resulted in Loki running from the fight with all his speed to avoid getting his backsided handed to him by Thor. Hulk stopped beating on him when he saw Loki was down. I haven't seen Thor 2, as I said unless I'm missing something. But then again the Thor scene, the Hulk scene all shows that with enough damage Loki can be taken down. And when Loki even reacts to the repulsar beams by being thrown back and with a "Argh" they had a effect. Loki isn't Thor that tanked a repulsar beam at 475% capacity to the face.

btw.

But why don't you tell me how Loki wins? To my knowledge there is no staff so is Loki going to throw rocks at Iron Man?

He did stab him but guess what he has that knife and Iron will engage him. Loki can use illusions and what not to confuse and take him off guard.

Of course you haven't seen Thor 2 you coward.

Loki has greater strength and greater opponents have tried to kill or ko him to which he has been unable to do so.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Then it will get interesting to see those lasers cut of Lokis head 🙂

I was never saying Iron Man could beat Loki up the way Hulk did. But lets not forget that in all the film, Iron Man utilized his repulsar beams twice against Loki and both times with succes.

You refuse to read op, until you do you concede with every post.

Originally posted by Supra
You refuse to read op, until you do you concede with every post.

No I didn't refuse to read it, I merely assumed that your thread followed every single other threads condition (Kill or ko = win), which was a mistake given that you made it.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The 2nd time Loki got hit, he lost the quick draw. Agreed. Did it knock him out? Did it even make him groggy? No. In fact, none of IM's attacks nor Hawkeye's arrows nor even Thor's blows ever knocked out Loki or even got him winded. Only Hulk got him to stay down, and IM doesn't have the kind of power that Hulk has.

Also, Loki fought Thor in armed combat and held his own, showing that he strength comparable to Thor. Sure he's not as strong as Thor, but simply being able to lock weapons with Thor and not fold under Thor's strength shows that he has strength near Thor's own.

When IM fought Thor, he was at 475%. He won't be super charged in this match. When IM fought Thor, his helmet got dented with a headbutt whereas Thor didn't even get a bruise. In fact, despite IM's best efforts, he was unable to put a mark on Thor. Loki stabbed Thor and hurt him. What do you think his knives will do to Tony?

Fact is, Loki has proven that he can take whatever IM dishes out. Same can't be said for IM. The one and only time he took on an asgardian he had the benefit of being at 475% and yet his armor was still getting trashed.

Did it blow him back? Did it force him to cry out? Yes to both. What I'm saying is that Iron Man fighting Loki has never been more then 3 used repulsar beams and that is nowhere near covering the weapons at Iron Mans disposal. Iron Mans 3 repulsar beams (each showing effect) Could the arrow take out a tank? I doubt it... Iron Man rockets can though.

A holding back Thor that tried to reason with his brother, when Loki stabbed Thor and Thor realised Loki had to be stopped the hard way, and decided to take the fight seriously Loki ran with all his speed because he couldn't do anything to stop Thor.

Are we going to compare the durabillity of Thor and Loki because that is like comparing Steel to Wood. I'll happily point it out again, Thor got shot in the face with a repulsar beam at 475% and it didn't affect him. Loki got shot by normal Iron Man and was thrown back. Loki got beaten down and couldn't move by the Hulk, Thor toke the same beating and could still move without problems actually. Their showing against the Iron Man armor varies greatly to say the least. And what would the knife do? Loki was never shown having a great accuracy with throwing around his knifes. So what you purpose is that Iron Man lands and engages in h2h with Loki? Allowing Loki to get up after he has been knocked down by the repulsar beam.

Except the two standoffs they had... I also disagree on Iron Man not having the means to put Loki down, as mentioned previously (on a couple of occasions) what is Loki going to do about the laser shown in Iron Man 2?

Originally posted by quanchi112
he got blasted but was not defeated. At all.

He did stab him but guess what he has that knife and Iron will engage him. Loki can use illusions and what not to confuse and take him off guard.

Of course you haven't seen Thor 2 you coward.

Loki has greater strength and greater opponents have tried to kill or ko him to which he has been unable to do so.

Never said he was, but to say the Repulsar beams had no effect is outright wrong.

Let me get this straight, the only way you have for Loki to take down Iron man is stabbing him... how is Loki going to reach Iron Man?

What on earth does those two things have to do with each other?

Loki ran from Thor, Loki got beaten down by Hulk, hell even Captain America held his own against Loki...

Originally posted by Utrigita
Never said he was, but to say the Repulsar beams had no effect is outright wrong.

Let me get this straight, the only way you have for Loki to take down Iron man is stabbing him... how is Loki going to reach Iron Man?

What on earth does those two things have to do with each other?

Loki ran from Thor, Loki got beaten down by Hulk, hell even Captain America held his own against Loki...

Uses his illusions and skill to do so.

Loki feigned weakness against the avengers the first go round. Loki demonstrates the skill to trade with cap unlike Iron Man. This fight is to the death.

Iron man cant hurt Loki. Just cant be done

Of course he can. Look how easily Hulk did it.
Anyway, Iron man's laser is probably going to severely cut Loki up, if not in half.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Did it blow him back? Did it force him to cry out? Yes to both. What I'm saying is that Iron Man fighting Loki has never been more then 3 used repulsar beams and that is nowhere near covering the weapons at Iron Mans disposal. Iron Mans 3 repulsar beams (each showing effect) Could the arrow take out a tank? I doubt it... Iron Man rockets can though.

A holding back Thor that tried to reason with his brother, when Loki stabbed Thor and Thor realised Loki had to be stopped the hard way, and decided to take the fight seriously Loki ran with all his speed because he couldn't do anything to stop Thor.

Are we going to compare the durabillity of Thor and Loki because that is like comparing Steel to Wood. I'll happily point it out again, Thor got shot in the face with a repulsar beam at 475% and it didn't affect him. Loki got shot by normal Iron Man and was thrown back. Loki got beaten down and couldn't move by the Hulk, Thor toke the same beating and could still move without problems actually. Their showing against the Iron Man armor varies greatly to say the least. And what would the knife do? Loki was never shown having a great accuracy with throwing around his knifes. So what you purpose is that Iron Man lands and engages in h2h with Loki? Allowing Loki to get up after he has been knocked down by the repulsar beam.

Except the two standoffs they had... I also disagree on Iron Man not having the means to put Loki down, as mentioned previously (on a couple of occasions) what is Loki going to do about the laser shown in Iron Man 2?

Loki never even tried to fight IM. Both times he got sucker punched. You don't really know how well IM will fair against a fully resisting Loki.

Yes we are comparing the durability of Thor and Loki. Loki took on machine gun fire and didn't even grimace. Hawkeye's arrow blew up a hole in the hellicarrier, but didn't even give Loki a rash.

Again, Loki didn't fight Hulk. Hulk put that beating on him while he was talking. Thor was fighting Hulk. There's a difference.

Never showed great accuracy with his knives? Watch the first Thor movie again. If those knives can puncture Thor, then they won't have any trouble cutting through IM's armor.

So what about the laser? It will hurt Loki, I doubt it will cut him though. Anyone tough enough to survive Hawkeye's exploding arrow without a scratch is not someone you can immediately say will get cut by laser.

Loki wins after being annoyed for a while.

Originally posted by h1a8
Of course he can. Look how easily Hulk did it.
Anyway, Iron man's laser is probably going to severely cut Loki up, if not in half.

Based on what exactly?

Originally posted by h1a8
Of course he can. Look how easily Hulk did it.
Anyway, Iron man's laser is probably going to severely cut Loki up, if not in half.

Loki wins.

It goes:

Thor >> Loki > Ironman