Originally posted by SupraYour basing his anti-gravity force generated from flying and relating it to muscle strength in a punch. Which is impossible to do.
He has no punching power feats.
So your argument is that a guy who is strong enough and durable enough to lift an island and has sub-light speed feats can't punch at all. If it makes you happy, he grabs MoS Superman and snaps his neck. Either way, MoS Superman has no chance here.
Originally posted by RobtardStruggled with a truck. You can't have it both ways and can't keep insisting on using amped feats for his baseline.
So your argument is that a guy who is strong enough and durable enough to lift an island and has sub-light speed feats can't punch at all. If it makes you happy, he grabs MoS Superman and snaps his neck. Either way, MoS Superman has no chance here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
he amped himself so the feat cannot be used for his normal power levels. End of story. Lifting an island doesn't prove anything since by your own admission a manhole can hurt him as well as he struggles with trucks.I haven't a lied about anything.
Well, you're wrong; it's been proven and can only cry about feats not counting cos the guy you find less attractive beats the guy you once swooned over.
Originally posted by Supra
MoS didn't give a flying pony about no one
Superman clearly cared about Lois Lane considering he went out of his way to save her. Supes cared about the family Zod almost killed, considering he killed zod to stop him. In fact, the whole plot of MoS revolved around Superman risking his life to save everyone else from Zod and his machine.
Just about everything your saying is wrong. Routh would obliterate Caville
Originally posted by Robtard
So your argument is that a guy who is strong enough and durable enough to lift an island and has sub-light speed feats can't punch at all. If it makes you happy, he grabs MoS Superman and snaps his neck. Either way, MoS Superman has no chance here.
Anti-gravity force from his flight does not translate into raw combat strength and you know it! Being Krpytonian means MoS has the same power that Routh does.
If you want to dig up past movie feats from the 70's then all of those feats apply to MoS as well.
Or we can stop talking about the 70's movies and leave those screen feats out which do not apply to any of these two movies.
Its your choice.
Originally posted by RobtardI explained why it doesn't count. He amped. We saw him struggle with trucks without sun amps. I have more than backed my objective reasoning.
Well, you're wrong; it's been proven and can only cry about feats not counting cos the guy you find less attractive beats the guy you once swooned over.
Originally posted by Supra
Anti-gravity force from his flight does not translate into raw combat strength and you know it!Being Krpytonian means MoS has the same power that Routh does.
If you want to dig up past movie feats from the 70's then all of those feats apply to MoS as well.
I already explained that the weight of that island would have been bearing down on his body; he'd need to be strong and durable enough to support and withstand that impossible pressure. If you want another strength feat, Superman held the San Andres Fault for many moments in the first film.
No. They're two different takes on the same character; but they don't share feats. It's like saying Action Comics #1 Superman shares the same feats as Silver Age Superman and Superboy at his silly height.
MoS was a reboot. It essentially erased the previous Superman films and started over.
Originally posted by Robtard
I already explained that the weight of that island would have been bearing down on his body; he'd need to be strong and durable enough to support and withstand that impossible pressure. If you want another strength feat, Superman held the San Andres Fault for many moments in the first film.No. They're two different takes on the same character; but they don't share feats. It's like saying Action Comics #1 Superman shares the same feats as Silver Age Superman and Superboy at his silly height.
MoS was a reboot.
Im not saying he's not strong or durable, please read op! Metropolis gets wrecked!!!
Originally posted by Supra
Im not saying he's not strong or durable, please read op! Metropolis gets wrecked!!!
I have:
Originally posted by Supra
All out warMoS is coming to destroy Metropolis, Superman has to stop him. Fight to death, if thats even possible.
Both Blood Lusted and Pissed the Fck off as to who is the best
Routh uses his sub-light speed to catch Caville and his vast strength advantage to snap Caville's neck in a blood-lusted fury.
Originally posted by Robtard
I have:Routh uses his sub-light speed to catch Caville and his vast strength advantage to snap Caville's neck in a blood-lusted fury.
Ignoring all his durability feats, and he has no strength feats against any kryponians in this move.
Just like everyone worships Dr. Manhattan from watchmen but he had no one else in the movie to challenge his divine power.
Man of Steel was tag teamed by multiple warrior above his pay grade and yet he refused to back down
Zod was a General of Krypton and could not even beat him. Zod from Mos outclasses 70's Zod in every way.
Superman could barely win against the three 70's K's and he went toe to to with World Engines, flying trains and satellites and took direct hits from Alien weapons
Man of Steel don't care about being punched, he don't care about being hit in the jaw, he will dish it right back and if you piss him off enough he will kill you.
Mos is a cold blooded krypton killer
Originally posted by Supra
Ignoring all his durability feats, and he has no strength feats against any kryponians in this move.Just like everyone worships Dr. Manhattan from watchmen but he had no one else in the movie to challenge his divine power.
Weren't you one of the people worhsipping DM in the Thanos and Thor threads?
Originally posted by Supra
Ignoring all his durability feats, and he has no strength feats against any kryponians in this move.
Let's see. Routh is stronger than Caville's Superman, we already covered that. So if a physically weaker Superman (Caville) can snap a kryptonians neck from that 'universe', how is it hard to believe a stronger one can't? Simple Maths.
Your argument is basically: 'Routh's Superman has no Abrams tank throwing feats, so he can't throw an Abrams tank'. Willfully ignoring he has greater feats of strength.
Originally posted by Firefly218If he tries flying to the sun but he doesn't start out at that base level of strength. Cavill is strong enough to hurt him either way and has more impressive combat showings.
Lifting an island of Kryptonite is a legitimate strength feat. And so what if supes amped, he could do the same against Caville
Originally posted by RobtardHe flew out of the atmosphere to amp. I didn't mean literally fly into the sun. He still struggled against that truck and was hurt by manholes.
You need to watch that crap film Superman Returns, cos there was no "flying to the sun" in that film.Once again debating over a film you've not seen.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He flew out of the atmosphere to amp. I didn't mean literally fly into the sun. He still struggled against that truck and was hurt by manholes.
Stop making shit up and watch the movie: http://megashare.info/watch-superman-returns-online-TmpNNQ
He flew just above some clouds after he left Cyclops' seaplane and he was still actively being poisoned when lifting the island.