Man of Steel vs Superman Returns

Originally posted by Supra
Im saying he can do super speet burst and flash stepping something Superman has never been shown to do in any movie other then smallville series.

Been said before: Routh has shown the ability to travel around the world and help people so fast that he literally appears to be in multiple places at the same time. That diarrhea sprays all over the speed feats in MoS.

Routh Superman takes hints from Silver Age comic Superman where he's ridiculously overpowered. What I am glad they didn't do with MoS.

Originally posted by Robtard
Been said before: Routh has shown the ability to travel around the world and help people so fast that he literally appears to be in multiple places at the same time. That diarrhea sprays all over the speed feats in MoS.

Routh Superman takes hints from Silver Age comic Superman where he's ridiculously overpowered. What I am glad they didn't do with MoS.

What does flying speed have anything to do with this, this is a combat fight and Mos can speed boost and flash step and keep up with Faora. Hand to hand Routh or Reeve's have nothing.

Originally posted by Supra
Its one thing to be lifting a island using anti-gravity which any superman should be able to do, its another thing to have Namek toss a flying train on you and tank it with zero realized damage.

You're still ignoring that he had the entire weight of an island pressing down across his arms/shoulders. That durability feat > being hit by flying train.

Originally posted by Supra
What does flying speed have anything to do with this, this is a combat fight and Mos can speed boost and flash step and keep up with Faora. Hand to hand Routh or Reeve's have nothing.

FFS. Really see no point if you're just going to arbitrarily dismiss every Routh feat that takes a crap on Caville's.

But it proves he can move far faster than MoS. Routh doesn't have to be an expert fighter, he need only catch up to MoS and snap his neck. Which he can with his ridiculous speed, strength and durability advantages

Originally posted by Robtard
FFS. Really see no point if you're just going to arbitrarily dismiss every Routh feat that takes a crap on Caville's.

But it proves he can move far faster than MoS. Routh doesn't have to be an expert fighter, he need only catch up to MoS and snap his neck. Which he can with his ridiculous speed, strength and durability advantages

Routh/Reeves refuses to have blood on his hands.

Cavil is a killer and don't give a shit about no one, not even his own dad from dying. He don't care about the city.

He's a maniac who likes to fight and lives on it and he's a stone cold killer

Cavil kills Routh in cold blood.

Originally posted by Supra
Routh/Reeves refuses to have blood on his hands.

Cavil is a killer and don't give a shit about no one, not even his own dad from dying. He don't care about the city.

He's a maniac who likes to fight and lives on it and he's a stone cold killer

Cavil kills Routh in cold blood.

You made them both "blood lusted" here. Changing it now to give Routh a disadvantage is a clown tactic. Do you want to be a clown?

But Routh/Reeve is a "killer" too; also an epic troll. Now you're pulling a Quanchi and ignoring context with the "his own dad" nonsense.

Again, if you're just going to ignore or arbitrarily ignore the facts that show Routh > Calville's Superman, I see no point in just repeating in circles.

Originally posted by Supra
Its one thing to be lifting a island using anti-gravity which any superman should be able to do, its another thing to have Namek toss a flying train on you and tank it with zero realized damage.

What?

Originally posted by Robtard
You made them both "blood lusted" here. Changing it now to give Routh a disadvantage is a clown tactic. Do you want to be a clown?

But Routh/Reeve is a "killer" too; also an epic troll. Now you're pulling a Quanchi and ignoring context with the "his own dad" nonsense.

Again, if you're just going to ignore or arbitrarily ignore the facts that show Routh > Calville's Superman, I see no point in just repeating in circles.

You refuse to watch man of steel and see it for its true form, unlike you I have watched returns probably 100 times. And love the movie. I know ever scene and every line in the whole movie, if there is one movie I know, its Returns, and unlike everyone here who hated on the movie and trolled it for years I actually liked it.

You refuse to be a good sport about anything rob, I tried to be cool with you and you resort to your typical name calling bullshit and referencing quan and me so welcome to the jungle, its gonna be a *****. Im going to bed and this is far from over. You can't be cool for one second and its a shame.

No offense Supra, but you're wrong here, and Robtard is right. Based on screenfeats, Routh is more physically impressive, and you made them bloodlusted, so the entire "refuses to have blood on his hands" argument is null and void. I understand you like MoS, but look at the objective facts here. Routhman lifted an entire land mass (which was weakening him). REALLY think about this. Is a piece of a freight train more massive than an island? No. Again, REALLY think about this. Routhman takes this fight.

Mos realized no damage while Superman got owned by humans on a rock and had to amp in the sun to do anything about it, he was done and had to amp to win.

Routh dies

And you want me to be honest with you I had no idea what blood lusted really meant. I thought it just mean pissed off. Not that they take morality out of it.

The fact that he is so powerful adding blood lust on it is spite and I didn't know that till just now cause you told me.

If you didn't know what blood-lusted meant, you shouldn't have added the stip.....maybe next time you'll educate yourself before making a thread and then embarrassing yourself by arguing aginst your own stips.

Originally posted by Supra
Mos realized no damage while Superman got owned by humans on a rock

It wasn't a "rock" It was a small land mass, which was made out of KRYPTONITE. Again, no offense, but you are aware of what kryptonite is, and what it does to Superman, correct? I don't mean to be rude, but you're simply calling it "a rock", regarding both it's size and properties, which is MASSIVE downplay.

Originally posted by Supra
and had to amp in the sun to do anything about it,

So? He lifted a small land mass made up entirely of the stuff that weakens him. Cavill's never done anything comparable, with or without amp.

Originally posted by Supra
he was done and had to amp to win.

Only because his powers were taken away by the KRYPTONITE, whose unique properties are the only thing that can weaken Superman. Cavill has no kryptonite,

Originally posted by Supra
Routh dies

Originally posted by Supra
And you want me to be honest with you I had no idea what blood lusted really meant. I thought it just mean pissed off. Not that they take morality out of it.

The fact that he is so powerful adding blood lust on it is spite and I didn't know that till just now cause you told me.

Everybody makes mistakes. Just be sure not to repeat it. So you agree Routh wins here?

Originally posted by Lestov16
It wasn't a "rock" It was a small land mass, which was made out of KRYPTONITE. Again, no offense, but you are aware of what kryptonite is, and what it does to Superman, correct? I don't mean to be rude, but you're simply calling it "a rock", regarding both it's size and properties, which is MASSIVE downplay.

Originally posted by Robtard
Do you want to be a clown?

Originally posted by Supra
Its one thing to be lifting a island using anti-gravity which any superman should be able to do, its another thing to have Namek toss a flying train on you and tank it with zero realized damage.

Wow the trolling here is amazing.

Routh-Superman effortlessly stomps. The guy lifted an Island and threw it into space. He was also faster than speeding bullets and could even fly so fast that the Earth spins around.

Anyone saying MOS stands a chance is either really dense or just plain trolling.

What is this? Routhman is far above Cavil in terms of power. Lifting a Kryptonite island and tossing it into space is an absurd feat. And his speed is too much for Cavil as well.

LOL@this thread

Originally posted by Supra
You refuse to watch man of steel and see it for its true form, unlike you I have watched returns probably 100 times. And love the movie. I know ever scene and every line in the whole movie, if there is one movie I know, its Returns, and unlike everyone here who hated on the movie and trolled it for years I actually liked it.

You refuse to be a good sport about anything rob, I tried to be cool with you and you resort to your typical name calling bullshit and referencing quan and me so welcome to the jungle, its gonna be a *****. Im going to bed and this is far from over. You can't be cool for one second and its a shame.

I've seen both films, obviosly, considering I'm directly using feats from both in comparison.

I've repeatedly explained and laid out why you're incorrect with your claims; you gloss over them and/or ignore.

I've been more than my fair share of patient in here and I didn't insult you above. Pointing out that you're using the same trolly-tactics as someone else is just that, showing you.

And for the record, if "more ruthless" is indeed the decider here as you seem to focus on, Reeve/Routh is levels above Caville in ruthlessness, dickery and trollery. I'd be happy to show/explain if you wish.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Wow the trolling here is amazing.

Routh-Superman effortlessly stomps. The guy lifted an Island and threw it into space. He was also faster than speeding bullets and could even fly so fast that the Earth spins around.

Anyone saying MOS stands a chance is either really dense or just plain trolling.

I'd like to see routh brawl which he can't, he got brawled by some thugs and had to go amp to life that island.