I've always thought this would be a fantastic match.
Juggernaut is immune (for most intents and purposes) to physical damage.
But powerful magical attacks can harm him.
Black Adam uses primarily physical attack options.
But he can charge his fists with raw magic. The result is a pseudo-magical physical attack- at Superman Class levels.
So the real question is...
Do Black Adam's magically charged fists "qualify" as a powerful enough magical attack to bypass Cyttorak's Invulnerability Enchantment?
I'm a bit torn on this. Arguments can be made for both sides.
Thoughts?
I always look at it as a character always has the option to bfr. They may not go for it right away depending on their basic knowledge of the opponent prior to the fight or their character (like Thor's warrior mindset to fight). But if they are not making any progress and see no way of winning then it is a viable option, unless the character is utterly retarded.
Originally posted by KingD19Onslaught did it. Juggs can easily be thrown to space, or another city at least. He doesn't even weigh a half of ton.
Cain has only ever been BFR'd by exotic means. No one's ever done it through purely physical force before.Even when Skaar did it, Cain was in the air so his unstoppability wasn't in effect, and he had to charge up an Old Strong punch to do it.
By moving out of the way and letting his unstoppability keep him going. You act like Hulk just socked him into that lake.
And Skaar has hit Hulk with 100 Trillion Tons of Force after a good Old Power charge. Charge time is not meaningless in this instance. And the hit didn't hurt him, it just packed enough force to launch a man whose merely 900lbs into orbit. But the fact that Skaar knocked him into orbit from ground level shows how strong that hit was.
Originally posted by KingD19I'm not saying that someone can easily bfr once Juggs is moving. He isn't always moving. There are spots where he isn't moving and can be easily hit or picked up and thrown away. Actually, Juggs has been picked up and thrown several times in comics. He was also hit away several times too. He doesn't have to bfred to space. Another city would suffice since he can't get back in time.
By moving out of the way and letting his unstoppability keep him going. You act like Hulk just socked him into that lake.And Skaar has hit Hulk with 100 Trillion Tons of Force after a good Old Power charge. Charge time is not meaningless in this instance. And the hit didn't hurt him, it just packed enough force to launch a man whose merely 900lbs into orbit. But the fact that Skaar knocked him into orbit from ground level shows how strong that hit was.
Originally posted by KingD19
By moving out of the way and letting his unstoppability keep him going. You act like Hulk just socked him into that lake.And Skaar has hit Hulk with 100 Trillion Tons of Force after a good Old Power charge. Charge time is not meaningless in this instance. And the hit didn't hurt him, it just packed enough force to launch a man whose merely 900lbs into orbit. But the fact that Skaar knocked him into orbit from ground level shows how strong that hit was.
Eh, we're not going to act as if Skaar is carrying 100 trillion tons powers every time he's touching the ground.
By your own admission, Hulk pulles something that Black Adam who is much faster can easily replicate. The example of Onslaught has been brought in too...
Originally posted by Bentley
Eh, we're not going to act as if Skaar is carrying 100 trillion tons powers every time he's touching the ground.By your own admission, Hulk pulles something that Black Adam who is much faster can easily replicate. The example of Onslaught has been brought in too...
I never said it was the same punch or that he could pull that off all the time. But Cain was falling for a good while and gave him plenty of time to cock his arm back and charge up. Because just like we're not going to say Skaar can hit with x100,000,000,000,000 tons of force all willy nilly, we're not going to see he can casually punch someone into orbit.
And the only reason Hulk could pull that move off is because they were locked up in a pushing match.
As for Onslaught. Onslaught doesn't even make any sense. But he did send him flying with TK, which at that point Cain had no defense against and the fight was off panel anyway so we don't even know what happened.