Older Women Seducing Underage Boys

Originally posted by Nephthys
Pedo alert.

Says the guy who jerks it to loli pronz.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Once a boy hits 16, they're well aware of what the hell they're doing and they most definitely want to get it on. Girls are exactly like that too, unfortunately most assume they are fragile victims that are raped or something. I'm sure this happens in some ghastly situations but in my experience, girls often actively seek out older men just as much as boys the same age do.

It varies greatly from person to person. Some people mature (socially) faster than others. Some of these supposedly innocent teens can not only give informed consent, they are more socially adept than most adults and the adults should be considered the victims of manipulation. Society doesn't want to see it that way. Imagine the headline: "Adult manipulated into sex with an emotionally abusive teen." The scoffs and guffaws...

Originally posted by roughrider
I talked about this with a feminist friend of mine, and the issue isn't as clear cut with her - because she has a harder time seeing a man (even as a young teenager) as a helpless victim.

Of course she does, she's been drinking the Kool-Aid. Well, provided this friend of yours exists.

Here's a confessional by a man who had an affair at the age of 12.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-433489/I-seduced-boy-12.html

It took him many years later, having a son at the age he was then, to rethink what happened to him.

Interesting stats in there. It's claimed that there are 1,500 cases of student-teacher sexual relationships a year in Great Britain, and 40% of the time it's a female teacher. That's much higher than in the USA, where it's estimated they make up only 10% of the cases.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Women banging young boys shouldn't be a crime. Every teen boy lusts after at least one milf or hot teacher he knows. It's completely natural.

I think this a problem only in the USA, you guys are too prudish about this stuff. I've dated two teens last year (16 and 17 years old) and no one gave a shit.

And similarly I've known young (About 13) girls who've thought their teachers were totes hawt. Most of the girls thought this of my Algebra teacher in eighth grade. Should it be against the law for him to have banged them?

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think an age of consent of 18 is ridiculous.

In most states the age of consent isn't 18. Only 12 states have 18 as the age of consent. 31 have 16 as the age of consent.

Originally posted by Mindship
Where the !@#$%@! were all these women when I was underage???

Yah!

Originally posted by NemeBro
In most states the age of consent isn't 18. Only 12 states have 18 as the age of consent. 31 have 16 as the age of consent.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, that's a bit US centric. But of course there are places that don't have 18 as the age of consent. I just said I find 18 to be ridiculous.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Well, the case did occur in the US, so... Also, IIRC most countries have the age of consent as below 18, hovering around 16.

Sounds like I'm not alone in finding 18 ridiculous.

You just think that because you went out with Sancty when she was like 15. estahuh

YOLO

Originally posted by NemeBro
You just think that because you went out with Sancty when she was like 15. estahuh

YOLO

I did think that before, in fact I have gotten less extreme in my view of how much the age of consent sucks.

And don't say that, I might live more than once 🙁

I think the term "statutory rape" should be removed from all legal discussion. To me, "rape" is such a strong word that it should never be applied to sex where both parties are consenting.

And while I don't know if we necessarily need to lower the age of consent, cases of sex between minors and adults should be taken on a case-by-case basis, where the psychological states of both actors are taken into account. As DDD said, not every adult is in a position to take advantage of a fragile teenager, sometimes it's the exact opposite.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think the term "statutory rape" should be removed from all legal discussion. To me, "rape" is such a strong word that it should never be applied to sex where both parties are consenting.

Taking advantage of someone who's too young to give informed consent, fully understand the complexities of sexual relations or deal with the consequences that sex can lead to constitutes rape in my mind.

That's kind of his point though, as I understand it.

How do you conclusively prove, in a legal environment, that someone is "not informed and/or does not fully understand the complexity of sexual relations"? Age isn't a good point of reference, because past 15 years old or so, the rate at which people mature fluctuates rapidly, and there is almost no difference from year-to-year (eg. one could reasonably assume that an 18-year old is wiser than a 10-year old by a significant margin, however the difference in wisdom between an 18-year old and a 17-year old is almost non-existent).

Yet, in the way our system works, you are technically a "rapist" if you have sex with someone a week before they reach the age of consent. Do they suddenly become wiser and more understanding of the consequences of sex within the span of a week?

Originally posted by NemeBro
And similarly I've known young (About 13) girls who've thought their teachers were totes hawt. Most of the girls thought this of my Algebra teacher in eighth grade. Should it be against the law for him to have banged them?

In most states the age of consent isn't 18. Only 12 states have 18 as the age of consent. 31 have 16 as the age of consent.

Well, the age of consent is 14 where I'm from so I don't see a problem.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Yet, in the way our system works, you are technically a "rapist" if you have sex with someone a week before they reach the age of consent. Do they suddenly become wiser and more understanding of the consequences of sex within the span of a week?

This applies to insurance policies as well except the difference is, they are always raping you. cry

Originally posted by Psychotron
Well, the age of consent is 14 where I'm from so I don't see a problem.

I view "informed consent", as it pertains to age, to be a bell-curve. I think 14 might be a bit low on my imagined bell-curve. This is why I don't like the "quick and easy" measurements used in law. As Omega Vision put it, it should be on a case-by-case basis. I think we could prove that women who have 4 or more children (or men who have fathered multiple children from multiple partners), all from different men, are not able to give informed consent. 😐

Hey, I know I was getting really sex curious by the time I was 13, and fantasized about lots of older (famous) women. I wouldn't have said no at all if someone I found beautiful made advances on me. My mother had a friend I fantasized about. I was renting the movie Private Lessons and watching it constantly when I was 14 and could rent a VCR from the local store.

Who knows what I would have thought years later, if it had happened so early for me. But I didn't lose my virginity until I was 22, and she was a stranger I had just gotten to know. I'm not upset it didn't happen the first time with the love of my life and we we lived happily ever after - I just wanted the issue gone from my being.

You'd have cried and screamed like a ***** and been mentally traumatized, be honest.

Probably not. Roughrider touched down in '86, knew he was a man by the age of six; even ****ed the girl who used to baby-sit, but that was years later on some crazy shit.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Probably not. Roughrider touched down in '86, knew he was a man by the age of six; even ****ed the girl who used to baby-sit, but that was years later on some crazy shit.

I touched down in 1969, actually.

Shut up. Do not contradict the rhyme!