Creation and God

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, do you believe that god can create evil?

I do not know the answer to that.

Originally posted by Supra
Sin creates imperfections and causes all flaws. Jesus healed the sick and said go and sin no more whenever he healed people.

So people are born WITH SIN & IN THE IMAGE OF GOD AS WELL?

So Jesus died for our sins that God implanted upon birth????

Originally posted by Supra
I do not know the answer to that.

Well, you just told me that god made sin to give us a choice. So that would mean that god made sin, and sin is evil. God made evil is what I am hearing from you.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, you just told me that god made sin to give us a choice. So that would mean that god made sin, and sin is evil. God made evil is what I am hearing from you.

God created everything. But evil. He made free will so we could sink ourselves and then he could punish us.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, you just told me that god made sin to give us a choice. So that would mean that god made sin, and sin is evil. God made evil is what I am hearing from you.

And I thought we were innocent until proven guilty?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, you just told me that god made sin to give us a choice. So that would mean that god made sin, and sin is evil. God made evil is what I am hearing from you.

Dude, I don't have all the answers..Lucifer and Satan rebelled against God and he threw them out for it.

They came and tempted man based off what I know, man fell to temptation

I know that God cannot be associated with sin directly because that is why he sent his son, to take on the worlds sin and redeem us.

Faith is a gift, some have it, some don't.

Somethings are beyond even the most devout believers.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
"I GIVE YOU FREE WILL"

"ETERNAL PUNISHMENT BTW IF YOU CHOOSE WRONG".

#trollgod

This is why I think the Mormons got it right:

"We want to leave Your presence for a while because we have progressed as far as we can and need to grow on our own. Your presence prevents us from choosing right on our own so our progression as thinking entities has stopped."

"Okay. I'll create a universe (multiverse) and give you agency. You'll be tempted and some won't want to be in my plane after existing in this creation for a while. Still sound good?"

*A third of everyone disagrees and rebel because they don't want to remain with God but they don't want agency*

"Okay, the rest of us, let us go!"

So, really, every single person born on earth is either a masochist or a philosopher, according to Mormonism. 🙂

I don't believe in any religion and I don't go to any church.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
And I thought we were innocent until proven guilty?

That is what Christianity believes. They say that Adam made the first sin, but Adam and Eve is just a story. That means there is no original sin. So, how do we account for what we see in the world?

The Ten Worlds of Buddhism is a better philosophy.

Originally posted by Supra
Somethings are beyond even the most devout believers.

I agree with this.

Some things will never make sense to me. Like, ever.

For instance, reincarnation HAS to be real, right? Surely a person isn't dammed fer eternity because they were born into the wrong family, with the wrong genetics, at the wrong location?

Better to believe in yet another supernatural event than reconcile the potential failings of the existing one?

Originally posted by dadudemon
I agree with this.

Some things will never make sense to me. Like, ever.

For instance, reincarnation HAS to be real, right? Surely a person isn't dammed fer eternity because they were born into the wrong family, with the wrong genetics, at the wrong location?

Where does the belief of re incarnation come from?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Better to believe in yet another supernatural event than reconcile the potential failings of the existing one?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😆 Kind of a “my delusion is better than yours”.

I think when you start using supernatural explanations to cover the unexplainable, you run the risk of forgetting that just about anything can be your answer. So if not knowing about Christ and thusly being condemned to hell for unwitting ignorance is a bad thing, reincarnation MUST make this better. Or you know, if Big Bang just doesn't make sense, GOD/ALIENS/GODALIENS did it.

Etc.

When I hear hoofbeats, I think horses, not unicorns.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😆 Kind of a “my delusion is better than yours”.

Do you believe in re incarnation?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
...When I hear hoofbeats, I think horses, not unicorns.

I remember the first time I read about quantum entanglement. It might of as well been unicorn hoof.

Originally posted by Supra
Do you believe in re incarnation?

Yes, in a way. I think there is some truth to reincarnation, but it is too egocentric for me. I believe in simultaneous incarnation.

There's some high-level science stuff that might as well be magic to me. I don't have the foundation to understand it, but I don't dismiss it out of hand. Hell, even Pi doesn't quite make sense to me.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I think when you start using supernatural explanations to cover the unexplainable, you run the risk of forgetting that just about anything can be your answer. So if not knowing about Christ and thusly being condemned to hell for unwitting ignorance is a bad thing, reincarnation MUST make this better. Or you know, if Big Bang just doesn't make sense, GOD/ALIENS/GODALIENS did it.

Etc.

When I hear hoofbeats, I think horses, not unicorns.

For the record, my question was satire. Mormons don't believe in that (being dammed for not knowing). Any Christian that has a halfway decent understanding of the canon New Testament shouldn't believe that, either.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, in a way. I think there is some truth to reincarnation, but it is too egocentric for me. I believe in simultaneous incarnation.

To believe in re incarnation then you must believe in the super natural or the un explained. Because to a normal person that sounds pretty far out as believing in a Supreme Being right?