Manhattan vs Routh

Started by Psychotron5 pages
Originally posted by marwash22
we aren't discussing comic characters, we're discussing movie versions of comic characters. What herald level characters have done in comics is irrelevant to this thread.

There's still no proof that Manhattan can affect someone with that kind of power. Just because you can blow up a normal human doesn't mean you can blow up a guy who can lift islands and travel at ftl speeds.

The proof resides in the fact that Manhattan's ability to "blow people up" doesn't hinge on being able to overcome their physical body. He removes the intrinsic field around solid matter, making said matter fall apart on the the molecular level.

it does not matter how strong Superman's body is, Manhattan is basically pulling on the threads of his very being and making him unravel.

did you even pay attention when you watched "Watchmen"?

Originally posted by marwash22
The proof resides in the fact that Manhattan's ability to "blow people up" doesn't hinge on being able to overcome their physical body. He removes the intrinsic field around solid matter, making said matter fall apart on the the molecular level.

it does not matter how strong Superman's body is, Manhattan is basically pulling on the threads of his very being and making him unravel.

did you even pay attention when you watched "Watchmen"?

Meh, who says Manhattan can manipulate a top tier's intrinsic field? Guys like Superman, Hulk, Thor all contain and radiate different kinds of energy than could possibly screw with it.

Originally posted by Psychotron
There's still no proof that Manhattan can affect someone with that kind of power. Just because you can blow up a normal human doesn't mean you can blow up a guy who can lift islands and travel at ftl speeds.
You really lack comprehension don't you.

K-nite sure overcame his durability. Seeing Luthor and his band of misfits rough him up was indeed humiliating for this Superman.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Meh, who says Manhattan can manipulate a top tier's intrinsic field? Guys like Superman, Hulk, Thor all contain and radiate different kinds of energy than could possibly screw with it.

Here's a likely scenario. Supes flies at DM. D M perceives it in slow motion. Turns all the matter around the place into kryptonite. Supes gets weak. DM removes his intrinsic field. supes dies.

There is only 1 scenario in which supes could win. Routh supes is a continuation of Reeves supes. So his feats can be applicable. Supes flies flies around the earth, turns back time to before DM is created in the accident, kills him as a human.

But even in that scenario, DM perceives time in a non linear way and can just instantly transport himself off the earth anyway.

Basically, supes loses.

Doctor Manhattan doesn't know Kryptonite's composition though, and Manhattan can only perceive time non-linearly, he can't act on what he sees.

Superman turns back time and wins though, you're right. 👆

Na. He tries, fails, dies. RIP Supes.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Doctor Manhattan doesn't know Kryptonite's composition though, and Manhattan can only perceive time non-linearly, he can't act on what he sees.

Superman turns back time and wins though, you're right. 👆

Except when he acts on what he sees in the present, like he did with his ex on Mars.

Do you even Watchmen, bro?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Doctor Manhattan doesn't know Kryptonite's composition though, and Manhattan can only perceive time non-linearly, he can't act on what he sees.

Superman turns back time and wins though, you're right. 👆

This works, and it's appropriately cheesy for Reeves/Routh.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Doctor Manhattan doesn't know Kryptonite's composition though, and Manhattan can only perceive time non-linearly, he can't act on what he sees.

Superman turns back time and wins though, you're right. 👆

Superman dies and he never ran back in time while in combat, sport.

Originally posted by Robtard
Except when he acts on what he sees in the present, like he did with his ex on Mars.

Do you even Watchmen, bro?

You've obviously never seen or read Watchmen. 👆

Originally posted by NemeBro
Doctor Manhattan doesn't know Kryptonite's composition though, and Manhattan can only perceive time non-linearly, he can't act on what he sees.

Superman turns back time and wins though, you're right. 👆

No that wont work on Dr Manhattan , because he living the past , present and future altogether !! and he says time is a lot different than we preserve it !!

Originally posted by DrDeadpool
No that wont work on Dr Manhattan , because he living the past , present and future altogether !! and he says time is a lot different than we preserve it !!

He still can't affect the past. Supes can.

He can't affect the past because past doesn't exist for him, even if Superman go back in time and kills the Dr it would probably make another timeline or something !! And won't affect the original Dr.
And by the way, is he traveling to past with flying at near light speed !!!!!!!! that's So unscientific because flying at near light speed will take us to future !!!!!

Originally posted by Robtard
Except when he acts on what he sees in the present, like he did with his ex on Mars.

While I agree that DM wins this, that particular scene clearly illustrated that even Doc is confined to temporal predestination; i.e he cannot change the future even he can see it well in advance.

Originally posted by DrDeadpool
He can't affect the past because past doesn't exist for him, even if Superman go back in time and kills the Dr it would probably make another timeline or something !! And won't affect the original Dr.
And by the way, is he traveling to past with flying at near light speed !!!!!!!! that's So unscientific because flying at near light speed will take us to future !!!!!

Yeah, not like the ultra-realistic Dr. Manhattan, right? Supes can travel back in time, Dr. Bluedong can't. Deal with it.

^Name a single time-travel feat which Routh-Superman has performed under his own power.

Originally posted by Epicurus
^Name a single time-travel feat which Routh-Superman has performed under his own power.

Watch Superman I. Routh is a continuation of Revees.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yeah, not like the ultra-realistic Dr. Manhattan, right? Supes can travel back in time, Dr. Bluedong can't. Deal with it.

But it's only a localised phenomena. Won't matter if supes can turn back time on earth if DM can simply teleport away instantaneously.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Watch Superman I. Routh is a continuation of Revees.

So you don't have a single feat for Routh Superman wherein he reverses time?