Originally posted by Psychotron
Those people were killed in the initial attack by the Kryptonians and their world engine, not by Superman and Zod's fight. By that point most of the civilians had fled.If I recall correctly hellfire only hurts the wicked, so it's obviously different than regular fire. And if that's true than GR couldn't hurt Superman with it. Clark fought against the Kryptonians up close, because it was the most efficient strategy. If GR can hurt him with the PS than Supes would try to keep his distance.
"One of the things we were hoping to depict is that Superman is not a god. We say he’s a god-like figure but he’s not omnipotent. Even in the comic books he cannot save everyone. I think people die [in Metropolis]. Clearly hundreds if not thousands of people have died while the gravity machines are going off. There were probably even people who died in Smallville.When you’re dealing with a threat like this, there will be collateral damage. This is something that hadn’t been depicted in comic book films is what it would be like if these powerful figures did clash, if The Hulk and Thor fought, people would probably die. Particularly in this case where Zod and the Kryptonians really don’t care if people die. I think people died and I’m sure that upsets some people."
Hellfire has burnt/melted solid metal chains, not to mention that the Rider burnt a number of Roarke's men to crispy fries in his first encounter with them. Clark fought against the kryptonians up close because that's in character for him. Just as went charging up towards the gravity beam. Not because it's the most effective strategy to apply in a combat situation, but because he's a simple farmboy who only knows how to go charging forward and brawl bare-fisted with an opponent in a fight.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Oh really? What GR's best durability feat?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Watch the movies.
I have. Maybe you should too.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Easily survived falling down a pretty large skyscraper, even while driving at top top speed on its surface downwards. Took multiple shots point-blank from anti-tank missiles and only got momentarily dazed. Was able to withstand the touch of a being that could decompose any organic material on physical contact. Etc.
So his best feats are inferior to Superman's punching power? Good to know.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Again, read his quotes:He specifically mentions that his intent in writing that particular scene was to showcase the level of collateral damage that can occur when such beings fight in populated ares. You've yet to provide a single instance of Metropolis being evacuated in that instance, even though the hostages whom Zod threatens to kill right before Kal snaps his neck further undermines your already badly undermined point.
Hellfire has burnt/melted solid metal chains, not to mention that the Rider burnt a number of Roarke's men to crispy fries in his first encounter with them. Clark fought against the kryptonians up close because that's in character for him. Just as went charging up towards the gravity beam. Not because it's the most effective strategy to apply in a combat situation, but because he's a simple farmboy who only knows how to go charging forward and brawl bare-fisted with an opponent in a fight.
Okay, maybe some people did die. That's not really Superman's fault, it's Zod's.
But if Hellfire doesn't work on the good then it wouldn't affect Superman. Superman did try to put some distance between himself and Faora and Namek. They were just too fast for that, an advantage Ghost Rider does not have.
Originally posted by PsychotronWell you're clearly misrepresenting the facts here.
I have. Maybe you should too.So his best feats are inferior to Superman's punching power? Good to know.
Okay, maybe some people did die. That's not really Superman's fault, it's Zod's.
But if Hellfire doesn't work on the good then it wouldn't affect Superman. Superman did try to put some distance between himself and Faora and Namek. They were just too fast for that, an advantage Ghost Rider does not have.
Why is everyone using the collateral damage argument here against, Superman? Apparently you all watched a different movie. Some people here seem to be using this as a way to insinuate, Superman was somehow to blame for the lives that were lost during his efforts to save the world. Kent may feel responsible for what happened along the way and may even feel guilty at times. However, it's not something he will carry with him because his heart, like his actions are just and pure. The Penance Stare argument has no ground here. The Penance stare lies in a world of right and wrong, innocent and guilty. If Clark didn't feel guilty after killing, Zod, if he didn't show any emotion then, yeah, the Penance stare would stone Superman in midflight.
Originally posted by quanchi112A tackle that pushes people through several buildings is far greater than being wounded by anti-tank rounds. 👆
So a tackle is greater than this ?Not only that but the fact Superman never beat anyone to death with his fists.
He killed Zod with his bare hands. 👆
Also, Grider is not as durable as Superman or Zod. 👆
Originally posted by NemeBroThat won't harm Grider. It barely bothered the Knians.
A tackle that pushes people through several buildings is far greater than being wounded by anti-tank rounds. 👆He killed Zod with his bare hands. 👆
Also, Grider is not as durable as Superman or Zod. 👆
Snapping a neck isn't the same thing as punching someone. Silly kids.