Originally posted by Psychotron
Nowhere in that quote does Goyer talk about millions of people dying in Metropolis, he only talks about Superman killing Zod.
"One of the things we were hoping to depict is that Superman is not a god. We say he’s a god-like figure but he’s not omnipotent. Even in the comic books he cannot save everyone. I think people die [in Metropolis]. Clearly hundreds if not thousands of people have died while the gravity machines are going off. There were probably even people who died in Smallville.When you’re dealing with a threat like this, there will be collateral damage. This is something that hadn’t been depicted in comic book films is what it would be like if these powerful figures did clash, if The Hulk and Thor fought, people would probably die. Particularly in this case where Zod and the Kryptonians really don’t care if people die. I think people died and I’m sure that upsets some people."
Heck, we have a thread on KMC which even discusses this exact topic:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f48/t580922.html
The point here is about all these examples completely undermining your baseless claim that Metropolis was magically evacuated prior to Superman engaging Zod in an all-out fight, despite the it being unfeasible that a city this big could be evacuated in such short time.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Heat vision =/= hell fire. Even if that doesn't work Superman can still attack him from a distance. He can throw a train at him if he wants. And unless you show me Rider teleporting himself somewhere he can't get back from a bfr.
Originally posted by Epicurus
My bad, that was the wrong quote.Granted that the exact figure quoted in his estimates doesn't number in the millions, but collateral damage is collateral damage. Another, more realistic estimate is provided here:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jordanzakarin/man-of-steel-destruction-death-analysis
Over a 100,000 dead, and a million injured, so it's nor that far from the figures I provided.Heck, we have a thread on KMC which even discusses this exact topic:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f48/t580922.htmlThe point here is about all these examples completely undermining your baseless claim that Metropolis was magically evacuated prior to Superman engaging Zod in an all-out fight, despite the it being unfeasible that a city this big could be evacuated in such short time.
Except the fact that both are heat-based attacks. One is purely physical in nature, while the other has mystical properties. Again, it has been pointed out to you that Superman fights opponents in close quarters [b]in character
. What you're describing is grossly ooc and is the sort of tactic one would expect of a CISless Superman, which is not the case here. [/B]
Those people were killed in the initial attack by the Kryptonians and their world engine, not by Superman and Zod's fight. By that point most of the civilians had fled.
If I recall correctly hellfire only hurts the wicked, so it's obviously different than regular fire. And if that's true than GR couldn't hurt Superman with it. Clark fought against the Kryptonians up close, because it was the most efficient strategy. If GR can hurt him with the PS than Supes would try to keep his distance.
Originally posted by Psychotron
If GR can hurt him with the PS than Supes would try to keep his distance.
To keep his distance, he would have to know what Ghost Rider can do. The OP didn't specify there was any prep time so sorry, I'm not buying that Superman will keep his distance. He'll do what he always does and charge right in and when that happens, hello personal hell.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
To keep his distance, he would have to know what Ghost Rider can do. The OP didn't specify there was any prep time so sorry, I'm not buying that Superman will keep his distance. He'll do what he always does and charge right in and when that happens, hello personal hell.
Wait, don't opponents have basic knowledge about each other?
Originally posted by Zack Fair
It is also hard to imagine GR getting to concentrate/stare into superman's eyes while he is getting rammed through buildings.
The PS is instant. Otherwise Blackheart turned Legion would've gotten out of the Rider's grip while he did his "your soul is stained by the blood of the innocent" speech and not stare back in terror near the end of the first movie.