Mace Windu, Sora Bulq and Depa Billaba vs Vitiate
Mace and the two other Vapaad users replace the initial Jedi strike team on Vitiate. However unlike the first team, these guys have immunity from Vitiate's mental domination.
The fight takes place on the Emperor's space station where the HOT first encountered Vitiate.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
That's a nice no-limmits fallacy, DP.Spoiler:.
Unless you're being sarcastic. mmm
^ This.
Also, not sure why we assume Mace is immune to mind-dominating, but untold amounts of other Sith born under Vitiate's rule, an entire planet, Revan and Malak, and co. were completely helpless.
No limits indeed.
Originally posted by Nephthys
You too buddy.
Originally posted by Stealth MooseAnd if Revan can't overcome Vitiate drawing on light and dark more esoterically than Vapaad ever could, Windu has no prayer.
^ This.Also, not sure why we assume Mace is immune to mind-dominating, but untold amounts of other Sith born under Vitiate's rule, an entire planet, Revan and Malak, and co. were completely helpless.
No limits indeed.
Honestly, Vitiate is not Sidious, he's far more empty emotionally - though they both were born of the Dark Side so was Bane and Bane was conflicted; Sidious was not as cool and collective as Vitiate was. Sidious, the one responisble for bringing the Dark Times to the galaxy, wasn't as evil as Vitiate. Now as extremely evil Vitiate must have been to make something like that true - he was just that evil.
By virtue of even being able to evolve those same powers, that Darth Nihilus developed due to the havoc on Malachor V by the Mass Shadow Generator and its sketchy nature, on his own, without ever even experiencing those same effects; proves what Tenebrae was. Vitiate was the single most naturally gifted dark sider in the mythos. His must have been the sinister birth of all.
Vitiate was a scholar first and foremost, Sidious' accurate recognition as "the most successful of all Sith"; was because he was - first and foremost - a politician. lol
This whole group gets mind raped.
Sidious, although less twisted by evil than Vitiate, was far more clever, exploitative, and subtle in gaining political, not esoteric, power. The greatest Sith wasn't so much the greatest because he was most delved into the dark arts, it was because he was a good politician. lol
What Star Wars says about politics, is that it can be bent to be more evil than any force of nature. This translates to the real world.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
^ This.Also, not sure why we assume Mace is immune to mind-dominating, but untold amounts of other Sith born under Vitiate's rule, an entire planet, Revan and Malak, and co. were completely helpless.
No limits indeed.
The OP said that the team is given resistance to Vitiate's mental powers.
Dark Side Nexus or not, Mace is solo-ing.
Originally posted by NewGuy01Revan's mind wasn't dominated when he faced Vitiate. As I said, his use of the light and dark was more advanced than that offered merely by a lightsaber form. Whereas Vapaad is fed by the thrill of a duel, Vitiate won't be playing Windu's "Jedi dueling games". Mace has no way to defend against the powers Vitiate is inclined enough to wield. This is an era far more knowledgeable and mastered in powers unknown to most of the Clone Wars era Jedi - in the case of Vitiate the powers are over all of their heads. Whereas Revan's knowledge offered some defense against Vitiate's mastery, Windu's will fall comparatively short.
The OP said that the team is given resistance to Vitiate's mental powers.Dark Side Nexus or not, Mace is solo-ing.
I mean, did you not see what Exar Kun's ghost managed to do not only to Luke Skywalker, who'd faced and come to understand the reborn Palpatine's darkest secrets, but to his whole band of Jedi initiates?
Not only that, but the amount of competition within the Jedi ranks, and combat experience against the Sith, in the TOR era far exceeded anything in the Clone Wars. More than likely, they were superior lightsaber duelists as well.