Rao Vs Shatered God

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Golgo13 Senior Member

Originally posted by operator616
^ Hmm.....perhaps yeah, they are the same being, this reminds me of "the unnameable one" (another name for a supreme being essentially) who is the god behind all gods referenced in Martian Manhunter v1 #4:

http://i.imgur.com/dtNtou6.jpg?1

I mean, we also know that Rao literally translates to "The One God", so you think that Rao is actually the One true God (as in The Presence) just given another name? ...... i dunno, personally id have my doubts (due to some evidence pointing otherwise), but it's possible, i guess.

Regarding the endless; yeah, MM sees Dream of the endless as Lord L'Zoril, so that means that other gods must ultimately be the endless as well.

Do you have scans of the Unnameable One?

operator616 Senior Member

^ No, because it was just a reference, never seen again. That's why he/it is not well-known.

Originally posted by Supra
What comic issues have Rao in them, I would like to read them. Is his de powered version of himself Kal-El or are all Kryptonians direct descendant of Rao?

Galan's scans are from Action Comics #886.

Originally posted by Epicurus
That's not possible since Lucifer confirmed that Izanami was a separate entity from Dream, and within Carey's stories, even a clandestine competitor of his when it came to harvesting people's dreams.

Well yeah, even Rao was shown as a separate entity (as he was shown to be independent) in Endless nights. But don't forget that Gaiman in the Sandman series -- despite establishing that various gods in certain religions are actually the endless, at the beginning of his series (issue #5) -- had the endless interacting with various pantheon deities several times, later on (meaning they are independent). So what does that tell us? (i honestly don't know what to make of this).

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by operator616
Well yeah, even Rao was shown as a separate entity (as he was shown to be independent) in Endless nights. But don't forget that Gaiman in the Sandman series -- despite establishing that various gods in certain religions are actually the endless, at the beginning of his series (issue #5) -- had the endless interacting with various pantheon deities several times, later on (meaning they are independent). So what does that tell us? (i honestly don't know what to make of this).

That subjective secularism shouldn't be taken at face value, especially within the context of a comic book. You and Galan want to rely on a complicated interpretation of such scenes, be my guests.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Epicurus
Which is not equal to the comics' take.

Your secularist opinions would actually have some value added to them were it even slightly alluded to that Rao is, in any way whatsoever, connected to the Presence or the Source, who have far more claim to being the Supreme Being of DC than localized pantheon gods like Rao.

No offense, but from where I stand, you're just reaching imo.

Imo, the fact that Kryptonians credit Rao with creating the DCU(a task normally attributed to God/The Presence) lends to the notion that Rao is basically how the Kryptonians perceived God. Much like the Endless, God isn't limited to a singular form and is perceived differently by all--I believe Rao is proof of this. However, I am in no way/shape/form trying to sell my opinion as fact. I am just trying to connect the proverbial dots(the 'dots' being multiple omnipotent creators.)

...But something tells me you'll just keep up with this random faux-intellectual banter no matter what I say(that's usually how 'debates' with you go), so I will indulge you no further beyond this. You can have the last word if you must. 🙂