Conan vs. Thor

Started by FrothByte4 pages

Originally posted by NemeBro
If you think this, then why even bring it up? Lol, this ****ing guy.

Conan stomps the weapon fight, probably loses h2h.

Because Thor has shown far better speed and reflexes than Conan, and even if Conan does have an advantage in his sword, Thor has proven that he has reflexes fast enough to block other longer weapons with his hammer (like Loki's spear for example).

Originally posted by FrothByte
Because Thor has shown far better speed and reflexes than Conan, and even if Conan does have an advantage in his sword, Thor has proven that he has reflexes fast enough to block other longer weapons with his hammer (like Loki's spear for example).

Eh, idk about that. Conan wasn't slow in the Destroyer. Or maybe I just remember it that way.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Has anyone else in this thread seen the Conan films in the last year or so? I'm just curious; they are old films.

Also, the OP should specify if this is as of the first or second movie, because Conan is wiser and in much better shape in the second film. And Destroyer-Conan like routinely punches out horses, camels, and outfights Bombaata, who can lift up people and kill them with one hand. And this is when he isn't deadlifting heavy things and killing anything in front of him.

While 80's choreography does not aid Conan much here, I favor him in weapon combat over Thor; because he has the reach, his weapon can kill easier, and Thor is not used to using de-powered mallet combat form (He is used to having his epic powers and Mjolnir's as well). If anything, at the last battle of the original film, Conan gets hit by a mega-mallet from Thorgrim while riding on horse back (Thorgrim being acted by Swedish strongman Sven-Ole Thorsen) with only a few seconds' daze. Thor will need to work into Conan's guard somehow and kill this guy with a few blows to the head yet not get stabbed, cut, or lose his weapon in a scuffle. While I imagine Thor is a good fighter in any case, I don't see him doing well on average with these drawbacks.

In H2H, I'm not sure. I might rewatch Thor again and re-evaluate, but they're both about the same size, with Conan having more strength feats to his name. And Conan is not a stranger to H2H; his fight in the gladiator games and his throw-down with Bombaata tell us.

Here's the Palace fight from the first film. I submitted it for both the fighting evaluation value and to see (at 1:20ish seconds) how retard-strong Thorgrim is for comparison.

👆 Glad at least one person has an idea about Arnold Conan.

Conan's greatest strength feat is likely pushing up and holding open that massive stone door in that shit film Destroyer, even if we consider the load was shared evenly with Bombaata.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Thor might beat Conan in a fist fight.

With these weapons? Lol. I could kill Thor with a sword if he just gets Mjolnir. 😐

I meant Conan; bad typo, sorry.

Also, about this deflecting lazr shit; this is gross misdirection. First, it's not done in normal form. Second, the hammer is involved. You can't divorce at this point the deflection power from anything aided by his armor and/or hammer, both of which are enchanted.

See here @ about 40 seconds, Thor gets his armor back as soon as he receives his hammer. He then deflects a shot with his hammer, even though the blast is visibly larger than his hammer (meaning it has jack shit to do with reflexes, since no one else could replicate this feat without some kind of innate deflection power).

Let's reinforce something else too: Thor appears to have an almost symbiotic relationship with his hammer in his powered god form, and can control its flight and movement with a thought. The hammer appears to be tied to his flying power, since he 'thinks' on how to move the hammer and holds on for dear life. He is able to use it to dodge Destroyer fire @ 1:15 on the same video.

@ About 1:38 or so, Thor is making a funnel by spinning his hammer impossibly fast. It is during this spinning motion that Thor deflects the blast right at 1:40 and 1:42. After this, he then charges the Destroyer and hammer-first, seems to absorb the brunt of its ridiculous firepower without being burnt or slowed in any way, and drives straight through to the source.

So the real question is: how the hell can anyone argue this as relevant? I mean, really? If you're going to debate, use evidence. This isn't "court of mah opinion k"

Originally posted by Psychotron
Eh, idk about that. Conan wasn't slow in the Destroyer. Or maybe I just remember it that way.

He's faster, or so it seems in Destroyer. He's certainly in better shape. Arnold competed in a competition during the filming and bulked up specifically for that purpose. He's more cut and defined than Barbarian-Conan.

Originally posted by Robtard
👆 Glad at least one person has an idea about Arnold Conan.

Conan's greatest strength feat is likely pushing up and holding open that massive stone door in that shit film Destroyer, even if we consider the load was shared evenly with Bombaata.

I'd say he's stronger. I give Thor the H2H edge, but in melee I think Conan's familiarity with his superior weapon wins the day.

Arnold actually won the Mr. Olympia in 1980 after he finished Conan the Barbarian, not the Destroyer. He wasn't as cut in the Barbarian, because the director felt a barbarian wouldn't be so lean.

Isn't that gif from Red Sonja?

Originally posted by Psychotron
Arnold actually won the Mr. Olympia in 1980 after he finished Conan the Barbarian, not the Destroyer. He wasn't as cut in the Barbarian, because the director felt a barbarian wouldn't be so lean.

You're right, I got them mixed up, because I was watching Youtube videos from both and Destroyer-Conan looks so much more cut. But he's also rarely wearing a tunic in comparison.

Isn't that gif from Red Sonja?

I believe so, but he does the same move in Destroyer in the fight with the protectors of the Horn.

Arnold wears a surprising amount of armor in the Barbarian.