Superman vs HP Doomsday

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus5 pages
Originally posted by carver9
Superman wasn't teleported away right then. He was blasted away and Darkseid during time teleported him to his planet where Superman woke up in no time battling Darkseid. As soon as Doomsday was hit, he died instantly. Doomsday fighting Probes doesn't have a thing to do with this. Superman withstood an attack that perma killed Doomsday. And what's up with you always bringing up liquid and tissue paper?

Originally posted by carver9
Two different comics bro. Post the other scene where we see Superman body on fire after the blast.

You do know that Imperiex's attack pretty much one-shot killed Superman too right?

Here's the scene from #594:

It was revealed #595 that he had in fact died but was returned or whatever nonsense:

He died for all intents and purposes but was spared from the final journey. At least Doomsday's skeleton was intact. Looks like Superman was just outright incinerated and his consciousness transported to the beyond. Unless his body was teleported right before the blast but it outright said his life ended in a blue halo of entropy. IIRC in another comic it said he fell against Imperiex but was spared death's final blow.

Whatever interpretation you subscribe to, it's clearly not evidence of Superman outperforming Doomsday due to these circumstances unless I missed something.

Edit: Let's also add Grayven to the list of beings who've tanked the Omega Beams:

Using them to push him through a boom tube? Talk about watering down.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You do know that Imperiex's attack one-shot killed Superman too, right?

It was revealed #595 that he had in fact died but was returned or whatever nonsense:

He died for all intents and purposes but was spared from the final journey. At least Doomsday's skeleton was intact. Looks like Superman was just outright incinerated and his consciousness transported to the beyond. Unless his body was teleported right before the blast but it outright said his life ended in a blue halo of entropy. IIRC in another comic IIRC it said he fell against Imperiex but was spared death's final blow.

Whatever interpretation you subscribe to, it's clearly not evidence of Superman outperforming Doomsday due to these circumstances.

Edit: Let's also add Grayven to the list of beings who've tanked the Omega Beams:

Using them to push him through a boom tube? Talk about watering down.

👆 This throws my argument out of the window. Good scans Rage.

Funny how I'm pretty sure you've been shown those before...

Originally posted by carver9
👆 This throws my argument out of the window. Good scans Rage.

Anytime.

Puts Classic Thor taking multiple blasts from Celestials into perspective, huh? smurph

Originally posted by carver9
@Bada...

Please let me know if you want me to get off of this topic. My argument is, Superman is more powerful than Doomsday.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm not going to post any further in this thread or anywhere else where you post. You want to get banned? Its your funeral.
I want everybody to stop killing threads. Pr and I don't want to come in every thread heavy handed. Most everybody has been here long enough to know how people are going to post. It becomes a problem when a few people have the same argument across several threads on end. That basically kills the thread. The last thing I want is to temp ban somebody. Pr may want bans though. biscuits

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Anytime.

Puts Classic Thor taking multiple blasts from Celestials into perspective, huh? smurph

Lol...I wanted to bring that up but I left it alone.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I wanted to bring that up but I left it alone.

I hope Thor gets a secondary title with a wanker writer. I mean, yes, Thor's consistently powerful but he's never had a large writer (Like Pak or Loeb) dedicated purely to making him more powerful then everyone else. It would be fun to read the b*tching as Thor beats up the Living Tribunal. 😛

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I hope Thor gets a secondary title with a wanker writer. I mean, yes, Thor's consistently powerful but he's never had a large writer (Like Pak or Loeb) dedicated purely to making him more powerful then everyone else. It would be fun to read the b*tching as Thor beats up the Living Tribunal. 😛

You don't want Pak.

Originally posted by Estacado
Owaw is Hp DD.
That's like saying HP is DOS.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Anytime.

Puts Classic Thor taking multiple blasts from Celestials into perspective, huh? smurph

Yes, it does.

Superman>Thor

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I hope Thor gets a secondary title with a wanker writer. I mean, yes, Thor's consistently powerful but he's never had a large writer (Like Pak or Loeb) dedicated purely to making him more powerful then everyone else. It would be fun to read the b*tching as Thor beats up the Living Tribunal. 😛

I think Pak would do an amazing job with Thor. He wanked the hell out of Herc, and had Zeus easily destroying a Hulk that was performing trans level fts like candy. His love for gods is obvious. Dont know about Loeb though...his consistentcy is distasteful to me.

Originally posted by carver9
I think Pak would do an amazing job with Thor. He wanked the hell out of Herc, and had Zeus easily destroying a Hulk that was performing trans level fts like candy. His love for gods is obvious. Dont know about Loeb though...his consistentcy is distasteful to me.

Yea, he started writing the Gods like they were Gamma powered by the end of his Hercules run. By Chaos War, even Thor was treated as pretty badass. And I know for a long while, he at best begrudgingly respected the character. Hulk rival who overshadowed Hercules? He probably still has his Thor voodoo doll.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea, he started writing the Gods like they were Gamma powered by the end of his Hercules run. By Chaos War, even Thor was treated as pretty badass. And I know for a long while, he at best begrudgingly respected the character. Hulk rival who overshadowed Hercules? He probably still has his Thor voodoo doll.

Someone needs to write Pak a letter so that we can get this started. I forgot he had something to do with Thor fts during Chaos War...didn't even think about that. Didn't Thor do some major damage to an abstract during that run? He isn't doing much justice to Superman though. Don't understand why since he is writing one of the most powerful Heralds. Oh well.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
That's like saying HP is DOS.

Didn't DOS die (or knocked out or whatever that mess was) at the end of that arc, though?

I thought HP was BFRed to the end of time, then Brainy saved him, then he got stuck in the JLA teleporters, then freed by Suicide Squad?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Didn't DOS die (or knocked out or whatever that mess was) at the end of that arc, though?

I thought HP was BFRed to the end of time, then Brainy saved him, then he got stuck in the JLA teleporters, then freed by Suicide Squad?

And him coming back made him that strong. Now imagine an entire arc where he's getting hit pretty much the whole time, and then OWAW. He's had plenty of battles since HP to OWAW. As opposed to HP who just came back from dying to start that arc.
Also, Doomsday Wars Doomsday looked quite a bit better than HP Doomsday as well, IMO at least. 2 paging Superman and all.

Either way, ultimately irrelevant since it doesn't show HP Doomsday scaling to Superman. It shows Superman becoming around as powerful as Doomsday, maybe
And the person saying it scales is ironically the same guy who famously refuses to acknowledge anything outside HP in any other thread until now. So yeah

Darkseid's omega beams were weakened after his battle with Superman when he sent Grayven in that boom tube. Just wanted to point it out before someone gets some wrong ideas.

Doomsday.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I hope Thor gets a secondary title with a wanker writer. I mean, yes, Thor's consistently powerful but he's never had a large writer (Like Pak or Loeb) dedicated purely to making him more powerful then everyone else. It would be fun to read the b*tching as Thor beats up the Living Tribunal. 😛

That's what Aaron is for. Except he's actually doing a good job.
😛

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And him coming back made him that strong. Now imagine an entire arc where he's getting hit pretty much the whole time, and then OWAW. He's had plenty of battles since HP to OWAW. As opposed to HP who just came back from dying to start that arc.
Also, Doomsday Wars Doomsday looked quite a bit better than HP Doomsday as well, IMO at least. 2 paging Superman and all.

Either way, ultimately irrelevant since it doesn't show HP Doomsday scaling to Superman. It shows Superman becoming around as powerful as Doomsday, maybe
And the person saying it scales is ironically the same guy who famously refuses to acknowledge anything outside HP in any other thread until now. So yeah

you got it all wrong. I do acknowledge things outside of HP when it comes to forum power levels. My point was discussing the power level of the OB in that particular comic, and not in General.

For example, Odin was operating at galaxy busting level in a certain comic. So any feats against his blasts were feats against galaxy busting power. When he fought Thanos he wasn't operating at those levels.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You do know that Imperiex's attack pretty much one-shot killed Superman too right?

Here's the scene from #594:

It was revealed #595 that he had in fact died but was returned or whatever nonsense:

He died for all intents and purposes but was spared from the final journey. At least Doomsday's skeleton was intact. Looks like Superman was just outright incinerated and his consciousness transported to the beyond. Unless his body was teleported right before the blast but it outright said his life ended in a blue halo of entropy. IIRC in another comic it said he fell against Imperiex but was spared death's final blow.

Whatever interpretation you subscribe to, it's clearly not evidence of Superman outperforming Doomsday due to these circumstances unless I missed something.

Edit: Let's also add Grayven to the list of beings who've tanked the Omega Beams:

Using them to push him through a boom tube? Talk about watering down.

The second scans was when Kismet saved him the second time when Imperiex-Prime nearly killed him! The first time is in those first scans when him and DD was fighting together and Superman was again nearly killed when Darkseid saved him with the boomtube.