Superman vs. Dream Team

To be honest they are comic humans and do not have any significant similarities to real humans whatsoever than appearance and common language. Their durability/strength is superior, magic exists and is controlled by them and their intelligence is greater than any force except when it is shut off for plot or vice versa. The irony here (and it is staggering) is comic humans share more in common with superman than any one that can ever be a real human. Their humanity is the largest joke hiding in plain sight in all of comics much like superman's identity.

All the characters mentioned i have the highest respect for btw...

Originally posted by Firefly218
Kal El

Vs.

Iron Man
Reed Richards in fantastic four
Batman
Dr. Doom
Hank Pym
Lex Luthor
One thousand Ultron bots

Superman is going all out (CIS off), 20 second prep

Dream Team gets 6 months prep and is also going all out

Fight is on indestructible planet

No BFR

😐

Minutes from being CLOSED

Originally posted by Firefly218
Kal El

Vs.

Iron Man
Reed Richards in fantastic four
Batman
Dr. Doom
Hank Pym
Lex Luthor
One thousand Ultron bots

Superman is going all out (CIS off), 20 second prep

Dream Team gets 6 months prep and is also going all out

Fight is on indestructible planet

No BFR

Spite

Team easily.

Can anyone on this team react to superman going all out?

its like taxes, you know the time is coming but can you do anything about it?

the team wins even with 2 days of prep.

With that much time for prep, the team would probably be more worried about Doom backstabbing them, than about Supes.

Well if CIS is off then Superman can win by using his speed and reflexes. A second to Supes is like several Months if not years.

The only way the team can win is if
1. They have adamantium or indestructible armor or start the fight protected under some indestructible shield or haven.

Without that they are screwed since Superman can become intangible and not be touched while he sees them motionless and figures out a way to kill them.

Originally posted by Decimus
To be honest they are comic humans and do not have any significant similarities to real humans whatsoever than appearance and common language. Their durability/strength is superior, magic exists and is controlled by them and their intelligence is greater than any force except when it is shut off for plot or vice versa. The irony here (and it is staggering) is comic humans share more in common with superman than any one that can ever be a real human. Their humanity is the largest joke hiding in plain sight in all of comics much like superman's identity.

All the characters mentioned i have the highest respect for btw...

Originally posted by h1a8
Well if CIS is off then Superman can win by using his speed and reflexes. A second to Supes is like several Months if not years.

The only way the team can win is if
1. They have adamantium or indestructible armor or start the fight protected under some indestructible shield or haven.

Without that they are screwed since Superman can become intangible and not be touched while he sees them motionless and figures out a way to kill them.

Yes, CIS is off.

The point of this thread, for me, was to gauge public perception of supes going all out (without CIS).

It is clear, given staggering odds, full throttle supes isn't as powerful as I thought he was. I never really read very many supes comics ~ usually spidey, xmen, ff and avengers for me 🙂

Originally posted by Firefly218
Yes, CIS is off.

The point of this thread, for me, was to gauge public perception of supes going all out (without CIS).

It is clear, given staggering odds, full throttle supes isn't as powerful as I thought he was. I never really read very many supes comics ~ usually spidey, xmen, ff and avengers for me 🙂

1. Imagine more than 50 earth weights of strength (1 earth weight of force is more than enough to one shot a planet),
2. nanosecond reflexes (1 second is like over 300 years),
3. Ftl speed (can do trillions of things to each one before one neuron fires in their brain),
4. hotter than core of stars hv (can cut through or disintegrate almost anything)
5. Potent freeze breath (can halt heralds for moments and reach close to absolute zero temperatures for instant destruction of almost any material)
6. Ungodly breath (can blow away tanks like they are dust)
7. Intangibility (can become untouchable)
8. Ungodly durability (can tank stellar shit)

Originally posted by h1a8
he is more powerful than you think he is.

1. Imagine more than 50 earth weights of strength (1 earth weight of force is more than enough to one shot a planet),
2. nanosecond reflexes (1 second is like over 300 years),
3. Ftl speed (can do trillions of things to each one before one neuron fires in their brain),
4. hotter than core of stars hv (can cut through or disintegrate almost anything)
5. Potent freeze breath (can halt heralds for moments and reach close to absolute zero temperatures for instant destruction of almost any material)
6. Ungodly breath (can blow away tanks like they are dust)
7. Intangibility (can become untouchable)
8. Ungodly durability (can tank stellar shit)

Originally posted by Diesldude
Superman Loses. 🙁

he can fly into space and super heat the planet to destroy any traces of krytonite but he doesn't kill. Killing is the only way for him to win if the other team has Mr. Fantastic, Lex, Doom and The Batman with 6 months of prep.

👆 this man knows his shit

Team loses because Doom and Luthor disable the countermeasures the others prepared to do a dick measuring context. Superman easily plows through Doom's and Luthor's ill conceived attempt to beat him and wins.

Team wins. Bruce tells them about the speed force. Using tech from their various labs Bruce, Pym, and Doom remodel the 1000 Ultrons and turn them into 1000 Amazos with Flash, Hulk, Sentry, Dr Doom, and FF4 powers

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Team wins. Bruce tells them about the speed force. Using tech from their various labs Bruce, Pym, and Doom remodel the 1000 Ultrons and turn them into 1000 Amazos with Flash, Hulk, Sentry, and FF4 powers

This.

Also, all of Superman's speed counts for naught onceyou jhave magic in the mix.

Doom could prep a spell that kicks in the EXACT INSTANCE the match starts. Magic being what it is, the wording will of course be important.

No matter how fast Superman is, he can't do a thing if an auto spell kicks in as soon as it starts.

It could be something simple.

As soon as the match starts, beam this message into Superman's head:

'Clark, this is Bruce. We have your parents. Forfeit the fight, and stand down. You know me. You know Luthor. You don't know what the others are capable of. Stand down'.

Clark loses.

CIS off, doesn't turn him into someone who will willingly sacrifice his parents.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Yes, CIS is off.

The point of this thread, for me, was to gauge public perception of supes going all out (without CIS).

It is clear, given staggering odds, full throttle supes isn't as powerful as I thought he was. I never really read very many supes comics ~ usually spidey, xmen, ff and avengers for me 🙂

And to see if He was not as "powerful" as you thought you pit him against characters that basically are walking plots based on intelligence

Originally posted by Firefly218

Iron Man
Reed Richards in fantastic four
Batman
Dr. Doom
Hank Pym
Lex Luthor
One thousand Ultron bots

And then to make sure He could not win you set up the stage to his disadvantage with only "20 second prep for Superman and 6 months prep and CIS off for team. Fight is on indestructible planet and No BFR"

Yes I see your point, of course Superman is not that powerful

You make me lol so hard this time bro and I don't know if everybody else notice but under this stips it will be really hard for someone to win

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
And to see if He was not as "powerful" as you thought you pit him against characters that basically are walking plots based on intelligence

And then to make sure He could not win you set up the stage to his disadvantage with only "20 second prep for Superman and 6 months prep and CIS off for team. Fight is on indestructible planet and No BFR"

Yes I see your point, of course Superman is not that powerful

You make me lol so hard this time bro and I don't know if everybody else notice but under this stips it will be really hard for someone to win

Not just walking intelligence plot devices...but two of whom know his weaknesses (Luthor) and secrets (Batman).

Originally posted by h1a8
Well if CIS is off then Superman can win by using his speed and reflexes. A second to Supes is like several Months if not years.

The only way the team can win is if
1. They have adamantium or indestructible armor or start the fight protected under some indestructible shield or haven.

Without that they are screwed since Superman can become intangible and not be touched while he sees them motionless and figures out a way to kill them.

Yeah, nobodies dealt with a FTL guy in MARVEL before.. Pfffft

Lex has already beaten Superman solo before numerous times. And with that being said with prep Reed could, Tony could and Doom could.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Team wins. Bruce tells them about the speed force. Using tech from their various labs Bruce, Pym, and Doom remodel the 1000 Ultrons and turn them into 1000 Amazos with Flash, Hulk, Sentry, Dr Doom, and FF4 powers

If they didn't want to go that route Bruce could tell them about the speed force and Superman would be faced with a Reed that could IMP from multiple directions simultaneously and a Doom capable of casting thousands of spells per second. Program the Ultrons to have to harness the speed force and Superman is in for a very bad day.