Hansel and Gretel vs Voldemort

Started by Darkstorm Zero14 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't need to as you yourself destroyed your own case. You invalidates your own case. It was quite succulent.

You said power levels matter hence all magics are not created equally.

You already conceded the point.

I never destroyed my own case Quan, You never had a case in the first place. I don't subscribe to no limit fallacies, but you seem to be under the mistaken impression that this alone grants you the right to say that AK automatically wins despite providing no evidence or even in inferrance as to how.

No, but the finer detail escapes you as usual. Here, let me ask again, and lets see if you are as predictably brainless and trollish as is your norm.

"How does AK get past general magical immunity?"

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I never destroyed my own case Quan, You never had a case in the first place. I don't subscribe to no limit fallacies, but you seem to be under the mistaken impression that this alone grants you the right to say that AK automatically wins despite providing no evidence or even in inferrance as to how.

No, but the finer detail escapes you as usual. Here, let me ask again, and lets see if you are as predictably brainless and trollish as is your norm.

"How does AK get past general magical immunity?"

Ak works so it is up to you to prove it doesn't. It isn't a durable attack so entirely different.

The immunity doesn't apply to the VoldeVerse or all magics. Onus is on you.

The AK has never been shown to work against those with magical immunity.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The AK has never been shown to work against those with magical immunity.
You would need to prove their immunity applies to all magics since that is your claim.

No, my claim is that the AK has never been shown to work against those with magical immunity.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, my claim is that the AK has never been shown to work against those with magical immunity.
You are claiming it won't work due to their immunity, burden is on you.

Again, my claim is that the AK has never been shown to work against those with magical immunity.

You really need to learn how to read.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, my claim is that the AK has never been shown to work against those with magical immunity.

You really need to learn how to read.

So you can't back your claim. Figures.

You haven't asked me to back up my claim that the AK has never been shown to work against those with magical immunity.

However I'll be nice and point out that not once in the 8 Harry Potter movies did the AK ever work against someone with magical immunity.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You haven't asked me to back up my claim that the AK has never been shown to work against those with magical immunity.

However I'll be nice and point out that not once in the 8 Harry Potter movies did the AK ever work against someone with magical immunity.

Do not make claims you cannot back.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ak works so it is up to you to prove it doesn't. It isn't a durable attack so entirely different.

The immunity doesn't apply to the VoldeVerse or all magics. Onus is on you.

Logic does not work that way Quan, one does not have to prove negatives, it is not logically possible.

Why doesn't it? You cannot prove that AK DOES work against the immunity, AND for a double strike, AK has been deflected by a ward before, in-movie, in-story on 2 separate occasions.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said they were immune to H and G magic from the get go. You really lack comprehension and agree with me that this by no means has anything to do with Voldemort magic.

He came at Harry no matter what he was. Quit being afraid of someone with that level of conviction since you lack commitment to anything.


You agreed that they are immune to magic. That is all that counts.👆

He came at Harry only when there was surety of his victory(which was an illusion anyways, since every single encounter resulted in Potter getting the best of him). Attacking a baby, stealing Harry's blood to attain immunity to Lily's protective magic, these are trademarks not of a brave warrior-hearted dude, but those of a coward. I am sure you can relate, since cowardice is a peculiar trait of yours as well, booboo112.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Logic does not work that way Quan, one does not have to prove negatives, it is not logically possible.

Why doesn't it? You cannot prove that AK DOES work against the immunity, AND for a double strike, AK has been deflected by a ward before, in-movie, in-story on 2 separate occasions.

You claimed they are immune to VoldeVerse magic so prove it. If you can't then you concede.

You already agreed it isn't immune to all magic.

Originally posted by Epicurus
You agreed that they are immune to magic. That is all that counts.👆

He came at Harry only when there was surety of his victory(which was an illusion anyways, since every single encounter resulted in Potter getting the best of him). Attacking a baby, stealing Harry's blood to attain immunity to Lily's protective magic, these are trademarks not of a brave warrior-hearted dude, but those of a coward. I am sure you can relate, since cowardice is a peculiar trait of yours as well, booboo112.

Their own magic. I specifically said all magic isn't equal. You think it is. 😂

Context and reasons outside Harry. Quit being childish and simple. You're so emotional. It is so easy to get you worked up.

Voldemort wanted a one on one fight unlike Harry who hid behind others. You are like Harry in a lot of ways.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You claimed they are immune to VoldeVerse magic so prove it. If you can't then you concede.

You already agreed it isn't immune to all magic.

No, the original claim was yours in saying that AK works despite a clear and standard power of the target is to resist magic, is AK not magic? Does the equivelancy rule suddenly cease?

Did I say magic? No, I said power, and there is a whole lot of difference between magic and power, otherwise DBZ characters would be also considered magic, as would most of thanos's abilities, and Galactus, and TOAA's....The existence of characters like Dr. Strange, Fortune Teller Baba and Babidi clearly differentiate magic and power, so please try again.

The level of magic employed to break the immunity would have to be sufficient to cause the break, Voldemort demonstrated on 2 separate occasions that AK can be thwarted despite direct hits on the target. Do you dismiss this as well?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No, the original claim was yours in saying that AK works despite a clear and standard power of the target is to resist magic, is AK not magic? Does the equivelancy rule suddenly cease?

Did I say magic? No, I said power, and there is a whole lot of difference between magic and power, otherwise DBZ characters would be also considered magic, as would most of thanos's abilities, and Galactus, and TOAA's....The existence of characters like Dr. Strange, Fortune Teller Baba and Babidi clearly differentiate magic and power, so please try again.

The level of magic employed to break the immunity would have to be sufficient to cause the break, Voldemort demonstrated on 2 separate occasions that AK can be thwarted despite direct hits on the target. Do you dismiss this as well?

Some beings power is their magic so to them it is the same thing and falls under the definition of power.

Again, you agreed that there is a difference thus backing down and conceding the point.

💃

Originally posted by quanchi112
Their own magic. I specifically said all magic isn't equal. You think it is. 😂

Context and reasons outside Harry. Quit being childish and simple. You're so emotional. It is so easy to get you worked up. Voldemort wanted a one on one fight unlike Harry who hid behind others. You are like Harry in a lot of ways.


Your flip-flop mode is on fire today. Going by your silly logic, Black Alice wouldn't be able to suck out Strange's magic. Do you agree with that?

He was scared of a baby for crying out loud. He stole his Lily's blood to avoid getting burnt. What a coward. You're much like him in that regard.

Just because H&G are immune to magic in their Universe does not mean they are immune to Voldermort. He demonstrated superior power in the movies to the ones we witnessed in H&G as far as I recall. If he summons some giant fireball snake or something, I think they'd better get the f*ck out of the way. That being said, Voldermort is facing two people who are immune to magic because of a charm their mother placed on them out of pure love and protection. If this was pokemon, that would be very effective against Voldermort. I guess it's all a coin toss in the end.

Anyways, if Voldermort can dodge bullets or block them, he erases the battlefield of annoyances, otherwise he's getting capped.

Voldermort is most definitely a coward though. Cowardice and fear are some of the most defining traits of the character. His fear of death is like the driving force for most of his actions.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Just because H&G are immune to magic in their Universe does not mean they are immune to Voldermort.

Just because Superman is vulnerable to magic in his universe, doesn't mean he's vulnerable to Thor's magic lightning.

After all, since we're ignoring the point behind neutral settings here, might as well start applying that bullsh1t line of reasoning to every crossover match ever.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He demonstrated superior power in the movies to the ones we witnessed in H&G as far as I recall.

Such as?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

If he summons some giant fireball snake or something, I think they'd better get the f*ck out of the way.

The fireball snake is made of dark magic, lol.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

That being said, Voldermort is facing two people who are immune to magic because of a charm their mother placed on them out of pure love and protection.

Voldemort's greatest weakness, as demonstrated by the movies themselves, is love-based protection magic.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

If this was pokemon, that would be very effective against Voldermort. I guess it's all a coin toss in the end.

At least you got something right in this paragraph.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

I guess it's all a coin toss in the end.

It really isn't though. On one hand we have a Black Adam, while on the other hand we have not one, but 2 Superboy Primes. The winner is obvious.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Your flip-flop mode is on fire today. Going by your silly logic, Black Alice wouldn't be able to suck out Strange's magic. Do you agree with that?

He was scared of a baby for crying out loud. He stole his Lily's blood to avoid getting burnt. What a coward. You're much like him in that regard.

I never flipped, ever. You have been all over the place. It is better than when you submit to Galan. Hat was very pathetic of you.

I said she would due to her abilities working. She has also taken more powerful beings magic than Strange further supporting it. Power and feats matter, sport.

No,he was not. He went after Harry. That isn't fear. You hide behind others when I come around. You're like Harry a child asking for protection from Galan since you have openly submitted to him before.

He is your Dumbledore.