Rogers vs Kal-El

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Rogers has never faced the murderer's technique of the dreaded Torquasm-Rao!

On a more serious note, Rogers is definitely more skilled in h2h than Clark and the difference in skill is actually a fairly big one. Also, Rogers has used Thors hammer on more than one occasion and is already fairly skilled with it. Superman would utilize his time to learn quite a few tricks with Stormbreaker, but Rogers has spent years seeing what Thor's hammer hammer can do. I feel like Cap would know how best to utilize the hammer.

How is Rogers watching the Hulk use the hammer going to help him actually use it.

Kal is used to using his own powers and knows he really has no limits, I think those could be extended to the powers granted to him by Stormbreaker.

Originally posted by Supra
How is Rogers watching the Hulk use the hammer going to help him actually use it.

What? Hulk has never used Thor's hammer. And he's referring to Rogers watching Thor use his hammer to do damn near everything under the Sun over the decades.

He's even lifted the hammer on occasions. When it comes to mortals, aside from Thor's hosts like Jake Olsen or Donald Blake, Captain America is the most familiar with Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Damborgson
It's had the benefit of not being assaulted by PIS. It's blessed, not superior. They were created to be equals, that's what I usually go with.

Originally posted by zopzop
Didn't Odin himself say he'd make Bill a hammer equal to Mjolnir if he gave Mjolnir back to Thor? I don't think Odin was lying to Bill. Mjolnir=Stormbreaker.

Yeah, something along those lines. It doesn't have Mjolnir's plethora of feats of course but it's supposed to be equal and that's how I consider them.

Captain America wins.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What? Hulk has never used Thor's hammer. And he's referring to Rogers watching Thor use his hammer to do damn near everything under the Sun over the decades.

He's even lifted the hammer on occasions. When it comes to mortals, aside from Thor's hosts like Jake Olsen or Donald Blake, Captain America is the most familiar with Mjolnir.

Meant Thor..sorry..

Ok Cap wins fair enough.

Who would you guys say is more worthy to wield the hammer?

Between Superman and Captain America?

Superman doesn't have the character to lift it at will. He usually doesn't do what needs to be done when the time comes, mostly his inability to kill. Wonderwoman would be a much more suitable candidate.

Cap on the other hand is a soldier, will kill if he needs and is able to mix in a warriors code with compassion and humility like Thor. (Excluding Fraction Thor). Cap is easily the choice to make.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Between Superman and Captain America?

Superman doesn't have the character to lift it at will. He usually doesn't do what needs to be done when the time comes, mostly his inability to kill. Wonderwoman would be a much more suitable candidate.

Cap on the other hand is a soldier, will kill if he needs and is able to mix in a warriors code with compassion and humility like Thor. (Excluding Fraction Thor). Cap is easily the choice to make.

If Superman killed one person, he would have no ethical code to stop him from killing anyone he fought though right? Once you cross that line more then once you cant go back right?

Originally posted by Supra
If Superman killed one person, he would have no ethical code to stop him from killing anyone he fought though right? Once you cross that line more then once you cant go back right?

Well its not rampaging killing spree type killing. It's a warriors ability to kill who needs to be killed, and restrain himself on those who don't. Clark seems like he'd have some heavy issues with that line.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Well its not rampaging killing spree type killing. It's a warriors ability to kill who needs to be killed, and restrain himself on those who don't. Clark seems like he'd have some heavy issues with that line.

So why does he not kill?

Superman? Because he's a pussy of course.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Superman? Because he's a pussy of course.

Then why does he fight to protect the innocent.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Superman? Because he's a pussy of course.

So you're saying Kal is a pussy because he doesn't kill?

You know it takes more will power not to kill someone right?

Originally posted by Damborgson
Well its not rampaging killing spree type killing. It's a warriors ability to kill who needs to be killed, and restrain himself on those who don't. Clark seems like he'd have some heavy issues with that line.

Except that Superman has killed when it's been absolutely necessary, so that logic doesn't really work.

Sure, he's not as worthy to lift the hammer, but there's more to being a warrior than being willing to kill.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It wasn't just lack of gravity. One of the reasons given was that Odin was dead. Yea, Loeb.

When did Stormbreaker no-sell anti-gravity tech?

In this issue, iirc (link to the proper scan is broken):

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9347/thor198941220.jpg

Originally posted by zop. Those two aliens were doing their best to lift it, after they muscles failed, they tried with the "anti-gravity braces".

The supes hate is strong in this thread, and I'm not talking about the fight between cap and supes in this thread.

How the **** is Cap winning this? Superman with stormbreaker would split open a thor level guy's head with one shot. He's not that pussy thor who doesn't knows how to swing a hammer and has actually used DC Thor's hammer for a thousand years. Sure Cap is more skilled but Superman's speed, strength gap and durability added with stormbreaker's striking power would ****ing end him even with Thor level stats.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Well its not rampaging killing spree type killing. It's a warriors ability to kill who needs to be killed, and restrain himself on those who don't. Clark seems like he'd have some heavy issues with that line.