Originally posted by JBL
Superman is not the strongest herald and he is nowhere near being 10 times stronger than thor. I have spared you for your misguided calculations on ( 50 earth weight crap and thousands of times stronger than crap ) a lot of nonsense my friend. I know FULL well about superman and thor. I have see supes fight thor, DCs herc and a LOT of characters in and below hercs class as equals. Herc is fully capable of matching supes in strength just like CM and BA HAVE, ( please dont try that mental block crap in our debate ) This team can win given the stips. But as you know, non holding back crap WILL enter this thread, so i challenge you to a battle zone so that i can speak freely on this matter without being called a hater. Are you ready??
if my calculations are misguided then you must show how. Simply saying so without proof is trolling.
Superman has never fought Thor. You are not allowed to use that source.
Dc Herc has nothing to do with Marvel Herc. Otherwise I could say WW is stronger than Marvel Herc since she is stronger than DC Herc.
You have to prove your assertions by giving feats. Otherwise you are breaking forum rules by ignoring on panel evidence. In other words, you are not to state things without being prepared to back it up with proof.
And there is plenty proof that Superman has mental blocks in place that makes him hold back and prevents him from killing. Superman went from not being able to hurt DD to killing him in a few pages. This is at least a 5x increase. Other showings have Superman losing his powers due to not believing. Then in OWAW superman goes from struggling with probes (hitting them a bazillion times) to one shotting them. You can't ignore this evidence and pretend it doesn't count because you don't like it.