Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Also what is the basis for saying that Edward is stronger than the T-1000... The T-1000 was throwing around Arnold who probably weights a ton like he was nothing.
That version of Arnold failed to lift a metallic gear, and had to to rip of its own arm(using a metal pipe no less) to free itself. Not to mention the original terminator failing to stop an incoming car at it in the first movie.
Edward would just straight up rip apart those versions of the T-101s like how the T-800 did to the T-600 in Salvation.
Either way, Vold has the best chance here, especially since he has the Elder Wand. I already posted a clip of his potential power output. I doubt even Edward will be able to compete with that. T-1000 definitely is not emerging the victor or even second place. Of anything, it's going to come down to Edward and Vold, and if Vold fights smart and doesn't let Edward speedblitz him, he has the best chance of winning.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Pre-Cameron terminators are nothing impressive compared to post-Cameron superman terminators.That version of Arnold failed to lift a metallic gear, and had to to rip of its own arm(using a metal pipe no less) to free itself. Not to mention the original terminator failing to stop an incoming car at it in the first movie.
Edward would just straight up rip apart those versions of the T-101s like how the T-800 did to the T-600 in Salvation.
Not a good example though Godkiller... That Metal Gear appeared to be on tracks... thus moving it against the tracks is ni-empossible. So say nothing of the fact that, again, even if there was nothing physically stopping it from going backwards.. it would still be going against the force of the mechanics which was obviously set in a forward position which is how his arm got caught. Plus if you look at the positiion he was in.. he had no leverage what so ever in that position.. again not a good example.
I just odn't get this ripping off his face with ease... The terminator got Runover by a semi going pretty damn fast and it did little to him. He got blown up in the same truck and he still lived. Edward doesn't apply more force than a semi running over him nor getting blown up like he was. So you're welll off base saying Edward would just rip apart the T-100.. the T-1000 it can do nothing to except get worn down eventually. The T-1000 won't get tired and can't be hurt.. we can't say the same for Edward.
T-1000 beat Edward every time and twice on Sunday.
The reason I bring up TP.. is because somebody mentioned Edward winning because of TP and I'm like who the **** did he mind rape.
Voldy wins this imo
Originally posted by Lestov16
Either way, Vold has the best chance here, especially since he has the Elder Wand. I already posted a clip of his potential power output. I doubt even Edward will be able to compete with that. T-1000 definitely is not emerging the victor or even second place. Of anything, it's going to come down to Edward and Vold, and if Vold fights smart and doesn't let Edward speedblitz him, he has the best chance of winning.
T-850's feat was more impressive since he knocked the van over. Edward has super strength but nothing the T-1000 or the T-X can't handle. In fact the T-850 was strong enough to hold that big blast door at the end with one arm and the T-X was overpowering him.
I mean he can't posses them after he's dead.
Originally posted by Epicurus
I don't see how he loses this fight. None of the opponents can put him down for the count, not to mention that he's also the most versatile and powerful of the bunch in this thread.
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You're honestly saying this won't put the T-1000 down?:
Originally posted by Lestov16
😆You're honestly saying this won't put the T-1000 down?:
Read and comprehend before replying to others.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Also what is the basis for saying that Edward is stronger than the T-1000... The T-1000 was throwing around Arnold who probably weights a ton like he was nothing.
Edward effortlessly stopped a moving van with one hand. I don't recall any terminator doing something similar. Edward also pushed down a tree.
Also, who said Edward mind rapes anyone? He doesn't mind rape. But his telepathy gives him additional info on what his opponents will be planning. Probably won't work on the machines though.
Originally posted by Epicurus
I don't see how he loses this fight. None of the opponents can put him down for the count, not to mention that he's also the most versatile and powerful of the bunch in this thread.
He has the best offense in this group as well as the most variety of attacks. He's the only one who has attacks necessary to beat every other opponent in the group. Problem is, I'm not so sure about his durability. He can't be killed without the horcruxes, but I don't see why he can't be knocked out.
And just want to add that the TX beats the T1000.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not a good example though Godkiller... That Metal Gear appeared to be on tracks... thus moving it against the tracks is ni-empossible. So say nothing of the fact that, again, even if there was nothing physically stopping it from going backwards.. it would still be going against the force of the mechanics which was obviously set in a forward position which is how his arm got caught. Plus if you look at the positiion he was in.. he had no leverage what so ever in that position.. again not a good example.I just odn't get this ripping off his face with ease... The terminator got Runover by a semi going pretty damn fast and it did little to him. He got blown up in the same truck and he still lived. Edward doesn't apply more force than a semi running over him nor getting blown up like he was. So you're welll off base saying Edward would just rip apart the T-100.. the T-1000 it can do nothing to except get worn down eventually. The T-1000 won't get tired and can't be hurt.. we can't say the same for Edward.
T-1000 beat Edward every time and twice on Sunday.
The reason I bring up TP.. is because somebody mentioned Edward winning because of TP and I'm like who the **** did he mind rape.
Voldy wins this imo
You're talking about the scene from the 1st movie, aren't you? The terminator was also slightly messed up from being run over iirc, not to mention that that hardly compares to the kind of strength which Twivamps bring to the table.
Lol, prove that the semi running over him produces more force than what a guy who casually stops a speeding van with one hand can bring to the table.
I am not even talking about the T-1000, since I doubt that Edward can take it out. Though there is no conceivable way for the T-1000 to end Edward either.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Edward effortlessly stopped a moving van with one hand. I don't recall any terminator doing something similar. Edward also pushed down a tree.Also, who said Edward mind rapes anyone? He doesn't mind rape. But his telepathy gives him additional info on what his opponents will be planning. Probably won't work on the machines though.
It was a SPINNING van.. it was going head on at them.. and part of the impact was also spread out via it hitting the car as well. Edward didn't stop the whole direct impact.. not even close. Again the T-100 has survived much worse than Edward has ever been shown dishing out... He can't beat the T-100 let alone the T-1000
Originally posted by Psychotron
T-850's feat was more impressive since he knocked the van over. Edward has super strength but nothing the T-1000 or the T-X can't handle. In fact the T-850 was strong enough to hold that big blast door at the end with one arm and the T-X was overpowering him.I mean he can't posses them after he's dead.
Lol, he possessed Quirrell after his first death. Hell, possession is pretty much the only power he retains after getting killed.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It was a SPINNING van.. it was going head on at them.. and part of the impact was also spread out via it hitting the car as well. Edward didn't stop the whole direct impact.. not even close. Again the T-100 has survived much worse than Edward has ever been shown dishing out... He can't beat the T-100 let alone the T-1000
So? A spinning van still has velocity, mass and momentum behind it. It doesn't matter if you get hit by a car head on or get hit by it's spinning rear end. What matters is the velocity of the impact and the weight behind the impact.
Point still stands that it was a better strength feat than what the T1000 has ever shown. Plus you forgot pushing down the tree.
Besides, I doubt the T1000 can even hit Edward.
Originally posted by Epicurus
How is it not a good example when we see the versions from T3 and Salvation perform much better physical feats? The T-850 would have just straight up ripped that gear off its arm with one hand instead of relying on a metal to tear its arm free.You're talking about the scene from the 1st movie, aren't you? The terminator was also slightly messed up from being run over iirc, not to mention that that hardly compares to the kind of strength which Twivamps bring to the table.
Lol, prove that the semi running over him produces more force than what a guy who casually stops a speeding van with one hand can bring to the table.
I am not even talking about the T-1000, since I doubt that Edward can take it out. Though there is no conceivable way for the T-1000 to end Edward either.
You have to be kidding me GodK... Name me ONE feat of Edward that would equal getting runover by a semi going probably aboug 55 miles an hour.. or a feat of edward that is most powerful than getting blown up in the semi truck.. I think it was even a gas truck. You do know how much concussive force and power an explosion like that causes right? More power behind that than I saw ANYTHING edward ever dished out. Unless you can name me something I've missed. As it stands edward can't even dish out enough punishment to put down the T-100 lead alone a T-1000
Originally posted by FrothByte
So? A spinning van still has velocity, mass and momentum behind it. It doesn't matter if you get hit by a car head on or get hit by it's spinning rear end. What matters is the velocity of the impact and the weight behind the impact.Point still stands that it was a better strength feat than what the T1000 has ever shown. Plus you forgot pushing down the tree.
Besides, I doubt the T1000 can even hit Edward.
Ummm you do understand that there is MUCH more velocity and concussive force behind a head on accident than a spinning vehicle accident right? You also undertand that the feat in question was also aided by the car HITTING another car which spread out the impact. Edward didn't just stop the full force of the car.. he only stopped part of it that was goingto kill her.. The car also took some fo the impact. Furhter, when a car is spinning.. it's losing speed as it spins.. there is friction there... tires skidding etc etc all slowing it down... this is very different than tanking a direct head on vehicle. Again, I can't see Edward even putting down a T-100 considering what it took.. never saw edward dish out tha tmuch punishment.