Khan vs T-1000 vs E Cullen vs T-X vs Voldemort vs ASM

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You have to be kidding me GodK... Name me ONE feat of Edward that would equal getting runover by a semi going probably aboug 55 miles an hour.. or a feat of edward that is most powerful than getting blown up in the semi truck.. I think it was even a gas truck. You do know how much concussive force and power an explosion like that causes right? More power behind that than I saw ANYTHING edward ever dished out. Unless you can name me something I've missed. As it stands edward can't even dish out enough punishment to put down the T-100 lead alone a T-1000

You're confusing strength with durability. Getting run over by a truck and surviving an explosion are durability feats, not strength feats. I don't think anyone here is saying that Edward is more durable than the T1000. What we're saying is the he's stronger and far faster than the T1000. And so far we've provided proof of Edward's strength and speed.

And though I don't think Edward is as durable as the T1000, I also don't see what the T1000 can do to him. The twi-vamps were described as being hard as diamonds, and even if we take that as an exaggeration, they are at least harder than concrete or rock, and the T1000 isn't stabbing and cutting through that.

The TX has a better shot against Edward, because she has a flame thrower. The only challenge will be if she can catch him.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Ummm you do understand that there is MUCH more velocity and concussive force behind a head on accident than a spinning vehicle accident right? You also undertand that the feat in question was also aided by the car HITTING another car which spread out the impact. Edward didn't just stop the full force of the car.. he only stopped part of it that was goingto kill her.. The car also took some fo the impact. Furhter, when a car is spinning.. it's losing speed as it spins.. there is friction there... tires skidding etc etc all slowing it down... this is very different than tanking a direct head on vehicle. Again, I can't see Edward even putting down a T-100 considering what it took.. never saw edward dish out tha tmuch punishment.

Ok answer me this. Which would cause you more harm? Getting hit head on by a car traveling at 10 km/h or getting hit by the spinning rear end of a car moving at 30 km/h?

Besides, stopping the spinning rear end of a car may not seem that impressive to you, but it sure is a better strength feat than the T1000 has ever shown. Edward also pushed down a tree. You seem to keep skipping that. Now tell me a strength feat that the T1000 has performed that makes you think he's stronger than Edward.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You have to be kidding me GodK... Name me ONE feat of Edward that would equal getting runover by a semi going probably aboug 55 miles an hour.. or a feat of edward that is most powerful than getting blown up in the semi truck.. I think it was even a gas truck. You do know how much concussive force and power an explosion like that causes right? More power behind that than I saw ANYTHING edward ever dished out. Unless you can name me something I've missed. As it stands edward can't even dish out enough punishment to put down the T-100 lead alone a T-1000

Pre-Cameron terminators are hardly more durable than the T-600s we saw in the Salvation movie. And based on his strength, I'd say Ed could rip apart a T-600 as easily as that roided T-800 did.

I didn't say it was a strength feat.. YOU GUYS were saying that Edward could just rip apart a T-100.. Which is WHY i was listing the durability feats of the T-100.. which shit all over ANYTHING edward ever dished out. That is why I was listing though. You guys said Edward woudl just rip apart the T-1000.. to which I said.. he couldn't even rip apart a 1-100 let alone a 1000 liquid metal one. So now, name me one feat of edwards that compares to what the terminator took in T! that leads you to believe edward would just rip it apart.

Further... I'm guessing the T-100 probably weight at least a ton.. The T-1000 was throwing arnold around like a rag doll. I never saw edward through around anybody that weight that much that was actively resisting him with super strength itself. Name me these times

If Edward can uproot a tree, I'm pretty sure he could rip apart a T-100. IDK about a T-1000, considering it is a malleable liquid, but even if Edward can't do anything to harm it, I doubt it can do anything to harm Edward.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I didn't say it was a strength feat.. YOU GUYS were saying that Edward could just rip apart a T-100.. Which is WHY i was listing the durability feats of the T-100.. which shit all over ANYTHING edward ever dished out. That is why I was listing though. You guys said Edward woudl just rip apart the T-1000.. to which I said.. he couldn't even rip apart a 1-100 let alone a 1000 liquid metal one. So now, name me one feat of edwards that compares to what the terminator took in T! that leads you to believe edward would just rip it apart.

Edward's strength is on par with Post-Cameron terminators. And seeing how one of those buggers just straight up tore apart a T-600, we can draw our conclusions thusly. Not to mention that Cullen is armed with 2 adamnatium/vibranium baseball bats in this thread as well.

Anyways, it would be nice if the OP clarified whether he was using Post-Cameron terminators or Pre-Cameron versions.

The T-1000 was pre-Cameron, and the TX was post-Cameron.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I didn't say it was a strength feat.. YOU GUYS were saying that Edward could just rip apart a T-100.. Which is WHY i was listing the durability feats of the T-100.. which shit all over ANYTHING edward ever dished out. That is why I was listing though. You guys said Edward woudl just rip apart the T-1000.. to which I said.. he couldn't even rip apart a 1-100 let alone a 1000 liquid metal one. So now, name me one feat of edwards that compares to what the terminator took in T! that leads you to believe edward would just rip it apart.

Did anyone claim that Edward can rip a T1000 apart? I certainly didn't. What I did say was he'll manhandle it, considering the strength advantage Edward has over it.

And I don't really think the T1000 weighs a ton. It sat on a normal police motorcycle without any physical evidence that the bike's suspension was having a hard time. I doubt the bike's suspension can take a 1 ton passenger sitting on it.

Plus the T1000 jumps on top of cars all the time. A 1 ton weight should heavily be denting the hood/trunk/roof of a car.

Originally posted by Lestov16
The T-1000 was pre-Cameron, and the TX was post-Cameron.

The TX actually has a better chance against Edward. It's stronger than the T1000 and has a plasma canon and flame thrower built in. They might be enough to take out Edward. Only problem now is if she can catch him.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Pre-Cameron terminators aren't this imaginary superdurable android that you're making them out to be. A few shotgun shots can KO them, being thrown through a plaster wall KOs them, metal pipes can penetrate their alloy, pipe bombs dismember them etc.

Edward's strength is on par with Post-Cameron terminators. And seeing how one of those buggers just straight up tore apart a T-600, we can draw our conclusions thusly. Not to mention that Cullen is armed with 2 adamnatium/vibranium baseball bats in this thread as well.

Anyways, it would be nice if the OP clarified whether he was using Post-Cameron terminators or Pre-Cameron versions.

When was Arnold KO'd by being thrown through a plaster wall? Nor was he KO'd by shotgun girl.. stunned sure.. not KO'd. Yet you just listed the weaker durability feats.. and FORGOT to address the feats I mentioned. WHEN and I'll ask agian WHEN did Edward dish out enough force that would equate to getting run over by a semi going at least 55 miles an hour and HE WASN'T KO'd.. then getting blwon up in said gas truck and still keep on ticking... Name me the feats of Edward that can dish out at least this type of force that still didn't put down the T-100. These feats aren't imaninary.. they happened and are very real.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Did anyone claim that Edward can rip a T1000 apart? I certainly didn't. What I did say was he'll manhandle it, considering the strength advantage Edward has over it.

And I don't really think the T1000 weighs a ton. It sat on a normal police motorcycle without any physical evidence that the bike's suspension was having a hard time. I doubt the bike's suspension can take a 1 ton passenger sitting on it.

Plus the T1000 jumps on top of cars all the time. A 1 ton weight should heavily be denting the hood/trunk/roof of a car.

No i'm saying he threw around ARNOLD.. a T-100... I'm not sure how much it weighs but I was just guessing. The T-1000 was throwing around a T-100 like a ragdoll... I don't think a T-1000 weighs that much.. but a T-100 certainly would carry more mass. Yet, he was being ragdolled by the T-1000.. That is certainly strength on par with Edward.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
When was Arnold KO'd by being thrown through a plaster wall? Nor was he KO'd by shotgun girl.. stunned sure.. not KO'd. Yet you just listed the weaker durability feats.. and FORGOT to address the feats I mentioned. WHEN and I'll ask agian WHEN did Edward dish out enough force that would equate to getting run over by a semi going at least 55 miles an hour and HE WASN'T KO'd.. then getting blwon up in said gas truck and still keep on ticking... Name me the feats of Edward that can dish out at least this type of force that still didn't put down the T-100. These feats aren't imaninary.. they happened and are very real.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No i'm saying he threw around ARNOLD.. a T-100... I'm not sure how much it weighs but I was just guessing. The T-1000 was throwing around a T-100 like a ragdoll... I don't think a T-1000 weighs that much.. but a T-100 certainly would carry more mass. Yet, he was being ragdolled by the T-1000.. That is certainly strength on par with Edward.

No. Edward ripped up a tree man. That's way way more than simply throwing around the T100 which probably weighs around at most 500 lbs.

You keep saying you don't see Edward putting in enough force to take out the T1000. I ask you then, what do you think the T1000 can do to take out Edward?

Originally posted by FrothByte
You're confusing strength with durability. Getting run over by a truck and surviving an explosion are durability feats, not strength feats. I don't think anyone here is saying that Edward is more durable than the T1000. What we're saying is the he's stronger and far faster than the T1000. And so far we've provided proof of Edward's strength and speed.

And though I don't think Edward is as durable as the T1000, I also don't see what the T1000 can do to him. The twi-vamps were described as being hard as diamonds, and even if we take that as an exaggeration, they are at least harder than concrete or rock, and the T1000 isn't stabbing and cutting through that.

The TX has a better shot against Edward, because she has a flame thrower. The only challenge will be if she can catch him.

They are not as close to be as durable as diamond and have you seen anything with T1000. Lol at them not being able to hit through diamond.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No i'm saying he threw around ARNOLD.. a T-100... I'm not sure how much it weighs but I was just guessing. The T-1000 was throwing around a T-100 like a ragdoll... I don't think a T-1000 weighs that much.. but a T-100 certainly would carry more mass. Yet, he was being ragdolled by the T-1000.. That is certainly strength on par with Edward.

No, it's not. The T-1000 doesn't have even remotely the same scale of feats in terms of strength as either Twivamps or Post-Cameron terminators. We saw it needing to liqui-phase through a bunch of metal bars. If it was as strong as this hypothetical T-1000 you're making it out to be, it would have simply shredded those bars. Not to mention that it couldn't even stop a moving car while chasing Connor and co, while Edward one-palmed a speeding truck in his direction.

Originally posted by carver9
They are not as close to be as durable as diamond and have you seen anything with T1000. Lol at them not being able to hit through diamond.

Originally posted by carver9
They are not as close to be as durable as diamond and have you seen anything with T1000. Lol at them not being able to hit through diamond.

Ok man, show me proof that they are not. So far the only things we've seen harm twivamps are other twivamps and werewolves that were specifically made to combat them. All I know is, it was mentioned in the (first I think) movie that they were hard as diamonds.

Show me proof that they are not and I'll believe you.

Plus, when has the T1000 ever damaged something as hard as diamond? Heck, show me the T1000 damaging something as hard as rock.

Isn't the reason why they sparkle because of the fact that they have diamond-like crystalline skin to begin with?

Originally posted by Epicurus
The T-1000 never busted anything of sufficient durability though. What makes you think that the Twivamps don't have diamond hard skin?

How easily they were getting their limbs ripped off by other vamps. I don't think those Vampires or werewolves have diamond ripping strength. Hyperbole.