Sylar/Peter vs Surfer

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That's how he gained the empathy power. No encephalectomy required. He reverted back to murder because it was fun for him

(Holding back rage rant of how retarded his redemption arc was; he was so much better as a villain 😠 )

Surfer Wins by a landslide. Arguing otherwise is stupid and pointless.

Power Cosmic>Mutants

They're not mutants.

Originally posted by carver9
Both should be able to mimic Surfer powers.
Surfer's powers don't come from the same source so no they shouldn't.

Originally posted by marwash22
what was an example? Not doubting it, just haven't seen that piece of shit movie in years.

not before getting killed.

The one I'm thinking of is when he switched the powers of members of the FF.

Originally posted by Supra
Surfer Wins by a landslide. Arguing otherwise is stupid and pointless.

Power Cosmic>Mutants

If you can tell me how Surfer counters time stop then I'll believe you.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Surfer's powers don't come from the same source so no they shouldn't.

When was it stated that they can only mimic powers from one source? That's like me limiting Surfers ability only on people with the Fantastic Four genetic code. No, just no.

Originally posted by carver9
When was it stated that they can only mimic powers from one source?
Where do we see them mimic cosmically bestowed powers like the Surfer's?

They have a biology that Surfer can manipulate, there is exactly nothing hinting Surfer has the genetic traits of the supers in their setting.

Peter gets people's abilities when he thinks of how they make him feel. Peter has feelpower. But Surfer's power comes from the board not himself. And boards don't have feelings... so peter can't take its power. Peter and Syla loose. TIme stop just means procrastination as they have no way to beat him once time stops.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Surfer's powers don't come from the same source so no they shouldn't.
Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Peter gets people's abilities when he thinks of how they make him feel. Peter has feelpower. But Surfer's power comes from the board not himself. And boards don't have feelings... so peter can't take its power. Peter and Syla loose. TIme stop just means procrastination as they have no way to beat him once time stops.

Exactly

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Peter gets people's abilities when he thinks of how they make him feel. Peter has feelpower. But Surfer's power comes from the board not himself. And boards don't have feelings... so peter can't take its power. Peter and Syla loose. TIme stop just means procrastination as they have no way to beat him once time stops.

They stop time, push Surfer off his board, and that's it.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Peter gets people's abilities when he thinks of how they make him feel. Peter has feelpower. But Surfer's power comes from the board not himself. And boards don't have feelings... so peter can't take its power. Peter and Syla loose. TIme stop just means procrastination as they have no way to beat him once time stops.
point of clarification:

Peter gets powers by just being around people... like a sponge. He activates (or manifests) the power by remembering the person he got it from.

Originally posted by marwash22
point of clarification:

Peter gets powers by just being around people... like a sponge. He activates (or manifests) the power by remembering the person he got it from.

He is not taking powers from a board.

i did not make that claim.

Originally posted by marwash22
what was an example? Not doubting it, just haven't seen that piece of shit movie in years.

When he disintegrated and remade Doom without his physical defects instantly. Considering the level of Doom's durability as shown in the previous movie, that's a crazy feat. Then there's reviving Sue.

Surfer's power affects matter and energy at a molecular level, as assessed by Reed when he was examining what happened to Johnny after his encounter with the Surfer. Even powerless Surfer can manipulate his body to to some extent, when he displayed Galactus' nature to Sue using his abdomen as a tv screen.

Suffice to say, there is significant doubt as to whether he is vulnerable to transmutation at all.

Originally posted by FrothByte
They stop time, push Surfer off his board, and that's it.

How do they push him off the board? And please don't bring up Lestov's "they're tachyonic beings" theory.

Originally posted by Epicurus
When he disintegrated and remade Doom without his physical defects instantly. Considering the level of Doom's durability as shown in the previous movie, that's a crazy feat.

Did he remake Doom or was that Dooms durability holding him together?

Originally posted by Epicurus
How do they push him off the board? And please don't bring up Lestov's "they're tachyonic beings" theory.

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Originally posted by Supra
Did he remake Doom or was that Dooms durability holding him together?

Doom was disintegrated by the blast initially, but got reconstructed as fell into that cave, without any of his bodily scars from the previous movie.