Originally posted by Wonder Man
The writer of AU said She-Hulk is as powerful as Thor.
Hercules droped about 20 cars on Spider-man and ended the debate about these fights...
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1. No. She Hulk isn't anywhere near as....just no.
2. One showing does not erase everything else Spider-man has done. I'm convinced Stiltman wrote that book 😂
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Lousy fighter, not half as smart as Spider-Man, way less experience, relies too much on her strength, very debatable if she can break free from his webbing, too slow, short ranged fighter and so on...
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
http://www.comicvine.com/the-spectacular-spider-man-168/4000-65562/Too bad I don't have the actual "fight" where he casually punched her across the room.
But but but... She Hulk is stronger !!!
Yeah, so are most of Spider-Mans enemies. Like he cares.
Anyways, let's overlook cover page based evidence for a while and focus on actual feats for a change, shall we:
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q487/TheGodKiller666/spidey_vs_shulkie01_zps83f7d9e9.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q487/TheGodKiller666/spidey_vs_shulkie02_zps432a88c6.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q487/TheGodKiller666/spidey_vs_shulkie03_zps78e9a7cc.jpg
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q487/TheGodKiller666/spidey_vs_shulkie04_zpsde160be0.jpg
Originally posted by EpicurusI agree that the rest is debatable but... not half as smart as Spider-man part.. when did SH get a genius level intellect?
Debatable, debatable, not true, partially true, completely untrue, somewhat true(though with how the Hulk's superspeed has been portrayed in recent times, I wouldn't put it past Shulkie to be fast as well), not true and so on...
Originally posted by SamZED
I agree that the rest is debatable but... not half as smart as Spider-man part.. when did SH get a genius level intellect?
I'd also like to point out that the webbing did slow her down and SM has a bag of feats of hurting people of her strength class and durability even if it wasn't shown to be the case in that particular fight that is decades old anyway.
Originally posted by EpicurusI'd be surprised if she didn't have feats of hurting chars of her weight class but that's not the point, the argument was whether he can hurt her and based on his feats he can. Time matters because Spider-man has gotten stronger and received lots of MA training. And even by that time's standards that can be argued to be a not-a-very-good showing for Spider-man, more of an exception than the rule.
In the very scans I posted, she ripped through it twice. Shulkie may not have Spidey's level of technical expertise, but let's not think that smarts are limited to only superscience intellect. Or are you forgetting who suggested that Spidey prosecute Jameson for libel in court? Spider-Man has a bag of feats of hurting people in her weight-class? Well, so does She-Hulk, and they're far more numerous since this is her weight class we're talking about. That fight is one of the few instances of these characters going head to head in canon. I don't see how it being "decades old" somehow invalidates the feat.
Originally posted by SamZED
I'd be surprised if she didn't have feats of hurting chars of her weight class but that's not the point, the argument was whether he can hurt her and based on his feats he can. Time matters because Spider-man has gotten stronger and received lots of MA training. And even by that time's standards that can be argued to be a not-a-very-good showing for Spider-man, more of an exception than the rule.
I'm not arguing the webbing can immobilize her completely and permanently but can definitely slow her down. Depends on the amount really and the fight doesn't contradict it. It's gotten stronger as well btw.
I'm not talking about her lawyer degree, but overall smarts. For example Wolverine is brilliant in his own field when it comes to tracking skills etc but that's not enough to say that he's for example 1/5th as smart as Reed Richards. Someone half as smart as Spider-man in RL would still be the smartest person on the planet.
Originally posted by h1a8
why debate feats when it's common comic book knowledge?
Spidey has many feats of hurting beings on she hulks level and above, from Hulk, to Thor, to Namor,... . He has many strength feats above 50 tons and even 100 tons.
He's not as strong as her but
It's asinine to assume he can't hurt she Hulk because of a low showing that happened a long time ago. A showing which contradicts a majority of Spideys feats.
She-Hulk has many feats of breaking the 4th wall.
In canon comics.
It's pretty common comic book knowledge.
Originally posted by Epicurus
In the very scans I posted, she ripped through it twice. Shulkie may not have Spidey's level of technical expertise, but let's not think that smarts are limited to only superscience intellect. Or are you forgetting who suggested that Spidey prosecute Jameson for libel in court? Spider-Man has a bag of feats of hurting people in her weight-class? Well, so does She-Hulk, and they're far more numerous since this is her weight class we're talking about. That fight is one of the few instances of these characters going head to head in canon. I don't see how it being "decades old" somehow invalidates the feat.
It invalidates it because more recent showings show the opposite, that Spidey can indeed harm characters in her league (without hurting himself). Look how he has hit has hit Thor and knocked Namor around. Recent showings >>> old showings if both are have similar number of occurrences.
Even using that scene. Spidey could easily tire She-Hulk out with the webbing. He can get free hits on her while she is stuck in the webbing.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She-Hulk has many feats of breaking the 4th wall.In canon comics.
It's pretty common comic book knowledge.
What is the 4th wall?
As a great man once said, "Boards don't hit back."
Of course she can serious hurt Spidey. No one is arguing against that.
I'm saying she would have a nearly impossible time hitting him, especially with the speed difference, webbing, agility difference, and Spidey's pre cog SS. He can possibly wear her out to pull off a win.
Originally posted by h1a8
It invalidates it because more recent showings show the opposite, that Spidey can indeed harm characters in her league (without hurting himself). Look how he has hit has hit Thor and knocked Namor around. Recent showings >>> old showings if both are have similar number of occurrences.Even using that scene. Spidey could easily tire She-Hulk out with the webbing. He can get free hits on her while she is stuck in the webbing.
There are a lot of guys spidey fights who could win via thunderclap but really, how often do these guys utilize it? It would be very hard to thunderclap when you're covered in webbing.
P.s. The last guy who incapacitated Spidey with a thunder clap was an amped Colossus(a lot stronger than she hulk with a deafening metallic ring to boot) so I'm not so sure its an auto win for her anyway.
