How GREAT Lord of the Rings is compared to Harry Potter and how it COPIED LOTR.

Of course, he lives in England. 🙄

k well i guess it was a smart move on there part since i dont have any clue what a philosophers stone is. i mean i can make a guess just by the name, but is there like a legend or myth or something to do with a philosophers stone i dont know about that goes beyond what the name suggests?

Yes, it is a mythological reference.

Care to elaborate, Ush? Did she steal the idea from mythology?

'Steal' is a ridiculously harsh word to use, seeing as The Philosopher's Stone is one of those general mythological things that all fantasy draws from. It is no more copying to use it than to use Wizards, dragons or Magic Wands.

It is simply the same given to the fabled material that could turn lead to gold and give everlasting life. The search for such materials obsessed people for centuries in the past.

Potter put it in, rather directly, as have dozens of things in the past. What it is is described in the book just as all the other weird stuff is and no readers in any part of the world other than the US thought the title was a problem. The original title would almost certainly not have been a problem in the US either, it all comes back to the bloody publishers.

Oh, the gold and everlasting life thingy...

I never realised just how copied Harry Potter was. That book which JK Rowling stopped from being published somewhere - Tanya Grotter - who was very similar to Harry is no different to what she wrote being similar to LOTR. Wish I'd known that earlier and I'd of never bought the books.

oh, pulease! that's the most ridiculous thing I've heard today. the situation you described is in no way similar to harry potter vs. LOTR. you're far off the hook here, mister, get some common sense into your judgement.

Yeah! whatever "mah" said!

mah!!! i cant beleive you would attack someone like that just for sharing their opinion. telling someone that they need some common sense, when all they are doing is voicing an opinion is ridiculous.

but someone who has no grasp of reality needs to get common sense in their arguments! it's not an opinion it's untruthful nonsense, and that's a fact.

I agree!

well saying that they have no grasp of reality is kind of harsh considering the only thing being argued is a difference of opinion. you state your views as fact or i should say that apposing views are nonsense is fact. actually there is really no facts in the argument, it is all a matter of opinion. no one knows what the authors intents were when writing Potter, so it is up in the air.

it's not much up in the air though, is it? we're talking about a story, Tanya Grotter, clearly a blueprint copy intent on making money cause of the equal title. downright plagiarism in other words. on the other side is arguments about Harry Potters similiarities to LOTR. highly questionable at best; sure it's fantasy, and there are wizards; and gee! some even have the same type of typical fantasy names. woop-de-fecking-doo!

Tanya Grotter?
if that's the russian version mah, it's not plagiarism, because they simple don't have authers rights in Russia

please read the previous posts in the thread

If you take all the letters that spell 'H-a-r-r-y P-o-t-t-e-r' and jumble them around and mix them up and put them in a blender, they actually end up spelling 'F-r-o-d-o B-a-g-g-i-n-s'.

Oh yeah, California has better waves than England. Therefore, California has better surfers than England. Therefore, the surfers in California are more experienced and one could say "smarter" than English surfers. Californians are Americans. So, one could now say Americans are indeed smarter than the English. See.

However, many Californians have roots spawned from England. Therefore, the smart gene came from England. So, one could say that in every Californian is an English surfer trying to escape. What does this all mean? Well I'll tell you.

Remember the part in Harry Potter II when Harry stabs that giant snake in the head with that sword. Remember where Harry got that sword? He pulled it out of a stone. Harry Potter actually copied "The Sword In The Stone."

So, now that I completley make absolutely no sense, please make me stop. I'm having a smart ass moment on a computer and I need to be put down. Thank you if you enjoyed my wasting your time.

P.S.

I don't really think Americans are Smarter than the English (or vise versa.) I don't even know why I went there. But I do know this. I like Harry Potter and I like Lord Of The Rings. They both derive from the same good vs. evil stories that have existed for centuries. In fact, they both utilize the 'hero myth' which spawned the 'hero paradigm.' Just about every story dealing with a quest, a vision, a sword, or a ring, came from these roots. I once read somewhere that there are only twelve ways a story can go. For example, tragedies, comedies, horror flicks, muppet movies, they all have to end some way, and there's only twelve ways. They all copied the Illiad. And the Illiad copied the Rosetta Stone.

What I like about both movies is that you can start each movie anywhere, be it the beginning, the middle, toward the end, and it will envelope your senses with the music, the visuals, the sound effects, the twists the turns, the Ents, the Mandrakes! It's all good. Every story has been done, it's just how you do it that makes it worth while.

Okay, enough of me.