Iron Man soloing BLEACH? Lol.
Yeah, tell me how he's beating Ulquiorra, let alone Barragan, let alone Ichigo.
Las Noches was at the very, very least city-sized given Nel's description. And Lanza is a super fast spammable ability. Iron Man isn't taking two of those and living. Neither is he dodging them.
If Iron Man can dish out and survive single digit teratons in his base form, wtf is Ulquiorra going to do with megaton level attacks? (really wish the OBD wiki wasn't axed, that way I could find reference them easier)
Barragan's Respira has never been shown to age anything above low end kiloton level, Iron Man's attacks are far more energetic than anything in the Bleachverse
Ichigo isn't a small country buster sonny boy
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Iron Man is massively hypersonic and nobody on Team 2 has single digit teraton level destructive power except for NarutoIron Man can solo Clorox and FT so Ichigo and Natsu are non factors
How often does Iron Man operate at this level? 1/10 times? He's been taken down by far less far more often than it's taken more to hurt him.
And show me how often he goes that fast, considering he gets hit by normal level speed opponents all the time. In fact it's rare Tony goes a fight where he speed blitzes or doesn't take just as many hits as he dishes out.
Everybody on Team Anime can do some serious damage to him.
Originally posted by KingD19
How often does Iron Man operate at this level? 1/10 times? He's been taken down by far less far more often than it's taken more to hurt him.And show me how often he goes that fast, considering he gets hit by normal level speed opponents all the time. In fact it's rare Tony goes a fight where he speed blitzes or doesn't take just as many hits as he dishes out.
Everybody on Team Anime can do some serious damage to him.
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It's the typical comic wank. People will take a single feat in a characters 50+ year history and pretend said character operates at that level.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Are things that old still canon?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Shouldn't Iron Man be like, 90 then?Comics are stupid.
Originally posted by ares834
👆It's the typical comic wank. People will take a single feat in a characters 50+ year history and pretend said character operates at that level.
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Appealing?
Applying?
Whatever, the point is. Iron Man does not operate at the levels you claim much if ever. He fights far far slower, is nowhere near as durable, etc... Read comics to find that out. With comic characters you can't ignore the averages and only focus on the highs, especially when it comes to Iron Man who's normal days far outweigh his invincible days.
Originally posted by KingD19
Appealing?
Applying?Whatever, the point is. Iron Man does not operate at the levels you claim much if ever.
Appealing, my keyboard is ghey
I take you ignored Endless Mike's calc then
He fights far far slower,
Do tell I am curious
is nowhere near as durable, etc... Read comics to find that out.
Ditto above
And that's your burden if he's 'far slower and less durable"
With comic characters you can't ignore the averages and only focus on the highs, especially when it comes to Iron Man who's normal days far outweigh his invincible days. [/B]
Yeah, we can sonny boy. Lower end showings are by far the most abundant shit in fiction, fictional verses are generally looked at the exact same way in terms on evaluation of feats. Why are comics so different?
What the **** makes Iron Man's low end showings any different than another characters low ends that get glanced at, scoffed at, pushed under the table and ignored?
Just because people ignore highs to focus on lows, or ignore lows and averages to focus on highs doesn't mean they make sense.
If I said Luffy is any less durable than he really is because of the comedic moments when Nami cracks him in the head and he gets a huge lump, people would call me out on it if I was serious.
And screw a calculation that is based on only the highest of his ability which he rarely shows.
In AvX he was shot by Doctor Nemesis multiple times.
In AvX he fought Magneto and wasn't dodging around at Transonic speeds, despite Magneto not being all that fast in recent years.
In the Octessence storyline he was defeated by one of the Exemplar's who was a pyrokinetic. She didn't have super speed, and she easily tagged him and almost killed him.
Iron Man's armor has been ripped to pieces by an Omega Red that hasn't fed recently.
He was getting beaten to shit by Worthy Grey Gargoyle.
And this is just a few examples from the 90's to now.
etc, etc, etc...
Originally posted by KingD19
And screw a calculation that is based on only the highest of his ability which he rarely shows.
>I don't like it so therefore it doesn't count
In AvX he was shot by Doctor Nemesis multiple times.
Don't know who that is
In AvX he fought Magneto and wasn't dodging around at Transonic speeds, despite Magneto not being all that fast in recent years.
Magneto has reacted to Mjolnir and lasers from Dazzler
And I'm curious as to how you prove this whole "not even transonic" horseshit
In the Octessence storyline he was defeated by one of the Exemplar's who was a pyrokinetic. She didn't have super speed, and she easily tagged him and almost killed him.
Characters in comics get tagged alot due to PIS and other such general faggotry
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Yeah, you don't know how it works
In the modern day debates use "positive feedback". It's where we take the higher end showings of a combatant and assume it to be an accurate representation of their abilities
Want to do what you're doing and nitpick and establish an actual mean? We get shit like city block skyfathers, building level DBZ characters, etc
Low showings are all over the place for fictional characters, what makes Iron Man's showings any different than any characters that are just scoffed at and ignored, again?
Oh, and don't do that CBR "it's an old feat so it doesn't count anymoar" feat, since nothing said it wasn't canon anymoar
Originally posted by KingD19
Appealing?
Applying?Whatever, the point is. Iron Man does not operate at the levels you claim much if ever. He fights far far slower, is nowhere near as durable, etc... Read comics to find that out. With comic characters you can't ignore the averages and only focus on the highs, especially when it comes to Iron Man who's normal days far outweigh his invincible days.
Don't now about feats, but for the nature of comics we do focus on high showings, otherwise we are essentially downgrading the character. This we call lowballing.
Don't know if the rules are different in this forum, but people who call on averages to benefit a side of the argument are frowned upon in comics vs.
What that guy said
Let's face it, the lower end feats without all the collateral damage you'd expect are going to vastly outnumber the higher end ones for any medium, whether be it comics, anime, manga, and so on
Consistent high ends, by whatever means you want to judge consistent as, are there to give an idea of a character's true capability in versus threads