At the moment the Ukrainian government is calling on the Far Right groups to turn over their illegal weapons and has given them a deadline to do so, with the caveat that if they enlist in the newly created national guard they'll be allowed to keep their weapons and receive a pay check for their trouble. At the moment, the main Far Right groups are dragging their heels but complying, though their representatives in parliament are now introducing legislation that would make Ukraine similar to Switzerland where private ownership of military hardware is a deterrent to foreign aggression. They ignore the fact that this "deterrent" has never been tested in Switzerland (the closest call was in WW2, and the Germans declined to invade because of the mountainous terrain and because they didn't want to lose their banks in the event that the invasion failed), and that it's very unlikely that if the Russian army intended to invade the whole of Ukraine they'd even worry about these partisans.
I think this is almost a bigger test to the new government than the Crimean situation is. They've had their revolution, now comes the make or break point: can they reintegrate their freedom fighters into a civil society?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well there are two issues with your statement here.(1) It isn't a question of "strength" rather one of political will. I'm not sure what would happen if Russia invaded Ukraine and how the USA would react, but if the USA did decide to lead a Desert Storm style campaign I don't doubt that the US military could utterly extirpate the Russians from Ukraine. Russia would likely pull out before risking an all out war it knows it couldn't win. But, the more likely scenario were Russia to invade is that the USA and EU impose an economic embargo on Russia and relations plummet to Cold War levels. In any case, Putin IS NOT going to do anything overt around Olympics time. He's worked hard to try to project an image of Russia as a modern, strong, and not antisocial country through the Sochi Olympics, and overt intervention would ruin what little progress has been made on that front. The international backlash against the invasion of Georgia will be NOTHING compared to the reaction to an invasion of Ukraine. It would be like if America invaded Mexico.
(2) The crisis is more Europe's problem than the USA, and Russia is more concerned about the EU than the USA.
The US is too weak, or better yet, they lack the strength to do anything. China and Russia are about to become one, and Germany will likely cement the deal in the very near future. China agreed with Russia's recent actions in Ukraine.
Originally posted by Stoic
China agreed with Russia's recent actions in Ukraine.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/26/us-ukraine-crisis-china-idUSBREA2P0KU20140326
Originally posted by Stoic
The US is too weak, or better yet, they lack the strength to do anything. China and Russia are about to become one, and Germany will likely cement the deal in the very near future. China agreed with Russia's recent actions in Ukraine.
China and Russia are about to become one? Ridiculous. China and Russia are strategic partners, but they aren't friends. Russia in fact fears China in the longrun, and sees itself becoming China's warehouse if it can't develop its far eastern territories and stimulate real economic growth (and if things progress the way they're going, that's exactly what's going to happen: Russia, cut off from trade with Western nations, will be almost entirely dependent on Chinese trade.)
China has not supported Russia's actions in Crimea (nor has it condemned them). It CAN'T support what's happened in Crimea without also setting a precedent that would pave the way for similar events in Tibet, Xinjiang, and Taiwan.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
USA doesn't lack for strength, it lacks for political will. Don't confuse the two.China and Russia are about to become one? Ridiculous. China and Russia are strategic partners, but they aren't friends. Russia in fact fears China in the longrun, and sees itself becoming China's warehouse if it can't develop its far eastern territories and stimulate real economic growth (and if things progress the way they're going, that's exactly what's going to happen: Russia, cut off from trade with Western nations, will be almost entirely dependent on Chinese trade.)
China has not supported Russia's actions in Crimea (nor has it condemned them). It CAN'T support what's happened in Crimea without also setting a precedent that would pave the way for similar events in Tibet, Xinjiang, and Taiwan.
Do you believe that battle lines are being drawn right now as we speak? I agree with almost everything that you are saying, but I believe that something is going to happen very soon. Something that many people have not foreseen. I'm going to send you an IM, and I would like you to see why I said what I did earlier.
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/26/us-ukraine-crisis-china-idUSBREA2P0KU20140326
Thank you, that was very informative. It helped me a lot with some of the thoughts that I've had over the past few days concerning this issue.
I like to look at things from different angles, and I read something on what is going on over there several years ago. Then last night I got a phone call telling me to visit the site that I'm going to post up in a second. It may be true or it may be false, but all the same I think that all that are interested should give it a glance.
http://www.thetrumpet.com/key_of_david?gclid=CN-5oLGDsb0CFYyhOgodCDAAmA
Originally posted by Stoic
I like to look at things from different angles, and I read something on what is going on over there several years ago. Then last night I got a phone call telling me to visit the site that I'm going to post up in a second. It may be true or it may be false, but all the same I think that all that are interested should give it a glance.http://www.thetrumpet.com/key_of_david?gclid=CN-5oLGDsb0CFYyhOgodCDAAmA
Really? 😂 The prophecies in the bible are fiction.