Originally posted by FrothByte
At least there's a basis in the comics. Regardless if you think it's irrelevant, it's still better than nothing. Whereas saying that WOlverine can easily cut Thor, that has completely no basis.
Yes there is a basis in the comics, but not in the movies. This is not a comic versus thread, it is a movie versus thread. I'm not saying your wrong in Thor > wolverine, but I am saying that wolverines claws could definitely hurt Thor.
When wielding a sharp object, such as wolverine claws, the wielder does not have to be strong, he has to be swift. Stronger swordsmen are not necessarily better swordsmen. If Bruce Lee had an adamantium sword and a healing factor against hammerless Thor, Lee would win by virtue of speed and skill, not strength
Originally posted by Firefly218
Yes there is a basis in the comics, but not in the movies. This is not a comic versus thread, it is a movie versus thread. I'm not saying your wrong in Thor > wolverine, but I am saying that wolverines claws could definitely hurt Thor.When wielding a sharp object, such as wolverine claws, the wielder does not have to be strong, he has to be swift. Stronger swordsmen are not necessarily better swordsmen. If Bruce Lee had an adamantium sword and a healing factor against hammerless Thor, Lee would win by virtue of speed and skill, not strength
When wielding a sharp object, the wielder still needs to have enough strength when trying to cut a durable object. Get yourself your best knife and try stabbing a 2 inch slab of wood. I doubt you'll be able to stab all the way through. Wolverine's claws are far greater than your average knife, but Thor is also far more durable than a slab of wood.
Plus like I mentioned in my above post, in The Wolverine, Logan's claws were being blocked by a regular katana.
Originally posted by FrothByte
When wielding a sharp object, the wielder still needs to have enough strength when trying to cut a durable object. Get yourself your best knife and try stabbing a 2 inch slab of wood. I doubt you'll be able to stab all the way through. Wolverine's claws are far greater than your average knife, but Thor is also far more durable than a slab of wood.Plus like I mentioned in my above post, in The Wolverine, Logan's claws were being blocked by a regular katana.
If wolverine's strategy is to stab, he loses. Stabbing Thor, and hurting him, requires tremendous strength that Wolverine doesn't have. If wolverine slices and dices, however, he can wear Thor down until the inevitable killer strike. As long as wolverine can avoidgetting punched in the face, he can win
Originally posted by Firefly218
At the right angle, a weak person could easily cut through a piece of wood.
Thor took hits from the Hulk with almost no damage. He took a blast from a scepter than was shown to disintegrate multiple frost giants in one blast and it knocked him through a wall into a high drop. He was back the next scene with no damage. Nothing Iron Man did hurt him either.
Adamantium may be durable enough to hurt Thor, but only if the person weilding it had the strength to put some force behind it. Strength Wolverine does not have. Even if he did, he would get stomped into the ground by a much stronger and more skilled opponent that he would never be able to tag. Thor had great enough reaction skills and speed to knock away blasts from the Destroyer with his hammer. He walked into a SHIELD base and brawled his way straight through with little to no problems (without powers) when wolverine was too scared to do the same with Weapon X in X2 because he knew it would go badly. This is a massive stomp in Thor's favor.
And Wolverine having any semblance of a chance against Thor in comics is the biggest case of SMvsFl and CIS every written. That's retarded.
Originally posted by Robtard
And Hulk was some speedster in that fight? I recall him being rather slow.
We see the speeds Hulk runs and leaps at later. Even his swings were faster than human. He clearly has super human speed. He's just slow next to Thor.
Even if we were to assume Hulk had human speed (a silly assumption but whatever), when have we ever seen Wolverine dodge every punch thrown at him?
Not to mention easily dodging that Jet Wing being thrown at him for God's sake! That was not only great reflexes but combat related flexibility.
Originally posted by Robtard
That was Thor running. Again, Hulk completely telegraphed the throw, but it was fairly good.Nothing over the top iirc, which is about the same as Thor's.
Really not sure why there's really a question about Thor being some fast fighter, he's not.
He also swings Mjolnir at ridiculous speeds, and blocks lasers with his Hammer. Plus he easily dodged that Jet Wing being thrown at him for God's sake!
And I noticed you just lowballed Thor's speed feats, instead of giving me Wolverine's Speed, Agility and Flexibility Combat feats which compare.
Originally posted by Firefly218
As long as wolverine can avoidgetting punched in the face, he can win
Yeah but how's he going to do that? Thor's the one with the dodging feats, not Wolverine.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I believe he means that adamantium makes them a lot more durable than normal steel, but doesn't really make them any sharper than the sharpest sword. Adamantium doesn't automatically make his claws light sabers.
That point by itself is true, but is of little relevance, because we see Wolverine carving up steel (and whatever else) with it like nothing. It is so obvious that Wolverine's claws are extremely sharp that I don't know why someone would even mention that durable =/= sharpness.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I think he means that if the claws are sharp it's because the bones themselves are sharp, not because they're coated in adamantiunm.
That doesn't really make sense. His bone claws aren't cutting anything, it is the adamantium grafted on top that is.
Deadpool's blades were crafted by the Weapon program, yet it is implied they are sharp enough to cut other adamantium (which makes no sense, but anyway).
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
He also swings Mjolnir at ridiculous speeds, and blocks lasers with his Hammer. Plus he easily dodged that Jet Wing being thrown at him for God's sake!And I noticed you just lowballed Thor's speed feats, instead of giving me Wolverine's Speed, Agility and Flexibility Combat feats which compare.
When he's holding it by the strap it swings around his hand at very great speeds, that's not swinging with his arm though. He swings the hammer as fast as the actor can, since his arm isn't CGI enhanced; I assure you Hemsworth isn't superhuman.
No, I accurately protrayed them. Thor is no speedster fighter, trying to make him out to be is just more Thor wanking.
Yeah, I did. I said Logan's no speedster either. He does have decent reflexes though as seen when he fought that stupid spike-growing mutant in the forrest and blocked multiple spikes.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine's claws were coated in adamantium, that means they are only as sharp as the claws were to start with, it's just that now they're more durable....Deadpool had actual swords placed in his body.
No. After the adamantium process they're turned into blades and not just the pointy/stabby bones they were before. It's clearly seen in Wolverine: Origins, the bathroom scene at the farm.
Ppl calling thor slow yet he has reaction speed fast enough to deflect multiple chitauri(however the hell u spell it) LASERS and the destroyer beams like they were nuthin. If i gave one of u guys that hammer and said replicate those feats ur ass would be fried 10/10 times lol. Str8 foolishness. Ppl lowballing thor yet not providing speed feats for logan to match his opponent.