Originally posted by Bentley
This comparision is pointless and also fake. At this point Thanos has better physical endurance than Kal, it shouldn't even be up to discussion.
What has Thanos done to say his endurance is better than Kal's?
Did he fight for days, years, etc?
Endurance is irrelevant if someone can fight for hours but ko you in a matter of minutes.
Originally posted by Supermex
Why is Thanos being compared to Superman?Superman is a herald. All of Thanos stats are above Supes.
Because Superman is stronger than Thanos, can rock Thanos with his punches, and
because Zoom hits harder than Superman.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
he virtually no sold or they had no lasting effect from PG Thor or a lighting amped hammer shot from Thorand both are harder Thsnos what Zoom has shown.The Zoom hits harder than Superman is lip service
Do you know what " a herald's hit" means? It doesn't mean energy projection at all.
Every time a high herald being "physically hit" Thanos, Thanos was rocked, affected, etc. He never no sold anything related to a physical hit from a high herald level being, not even close. PG Thor made him bleed and was rocking the shit out of him. PG Thor wasn't proven to be more than 2x stronger than normal Thor. Zoom can hit harder than Superman. There is no limit to how hard Zoom can hit when he employs the IMP.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
More lies , PG Thor wasn't rocking the shit out of Thanos he made his nose trickle with blood which Thanos smiled at.Il wait for actual on panel proof that PG was only 2xstrong and Zoom hits as hard as Superman.
I want actual on panel showings not your trolling words
Well, Zoom's punches hurt more than Superman's:
Admittedly, its not as scientific as say, Batman with a punch force-o-meter, but considering this happened AFTER Sacrifice, I would say Wonder Woman knows what being punched by Supes feels like.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
The punch did nothing damage wise that a superman punch can do, like I said lip service nothing more
But what do you want? I was half-joking about the punch force-o-meter, but is that what it would take to convince you? Apart from the statements, he's also punching her around the world, FWIW.
I mean, WW is a trained fighter. She knows what a punch feels like. She knows what Supes' punches feel like. And she said Zoom's hurts more.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
So you honestly believe Superman can't hit harder than Zoom? People act like Superman has punched he with everything he has, sadly seems this forum believe h1 logic
That also supposes Zoom hit her with everything he had doe....
Whatever you believe, the fact remains that Zoom's punches hurt WW than when she was punched by Superman. You can argue if you want that Superman, when mindcontrolled by Maxwell and believed her to be Doomsday who had just killed Lois, was holding back when he punched her. You can also argue that Zoom, not desiring to kill her (and thus, make herrrrrr aaaaaa bettteerrrrrrr herrrrrrrooooo) was also pulling his punches.
Originally posted by h1a8
What has Thanos done to say his endurance is better than Kal's?
Did he fight for days, years, etc?Endurance is irrelevant if someone can fight for hours but ko you in a matter of minutes.
Kal wouldn't be able to no-sell Thor nor Blackbolt like Thanos did. He can beat them both, but the strength difference isn't so much that Kal can no-sell them. Superman's physical endurance isn't superior to Thanos.
That's my claim and I don't see how it's up to discussion.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You can argue if you want that Superman, when mindcontrolled by Maxwell and believed her to be Doomsday who had just killed Lois, was holding back when he punched her. You can also argue that Zoom, not desiring to kill her (and thus, make herrrrrr aaaaaa bettteerrrrrrr herrrrrrrooooo) was also pulling his punches.
You can also argue that WW, being able to see Kal's punches coming (he wasn't "moving through time," or whatever gibberish it is that allows Zoom to simultaneously not move faster than her, yet still punch at a high-herald level supposedly because of superior speed), she was able to avoid taking them as squarely as she has to take Zoom's.
She didn't say that Zoom "hits harder," after all, just that it "hurts more." Punches you don't see coming can hurt a lot more.
Originally posted by Insane TitanWay to argue against writer's intent. You don't like it so it's not true, regardless of what the writer wants to be true.
The punch did nothing damage wise that a superman punch can do, like I said lip service nothing more
The IMP has limitless potential. There is no limit to how much force Zoom can punch with. The closer he gets to the speed of light then the more mass he gains. That is why a 160lb being with human strength can hit a godlike being (WW) and seriously rock her.
Originally posted by Insane TitanHuh? Stop Lying. Thor was hitting Thanos around like all over the place. The fact that he made him bleed proves it wasn't anywhere near a no sell.
More lies , PG Thor wasn't rocking the shit out of Thanos he made his nose trickle with blood which Thanos smiled at.Il wait for actual on panel proof that PG was only 2xstrong and Zoom hits as hard as Superman.
I want actual on panel showings not your trolling words
I said PG wasn't MORE than 2x. That means he could have been 0.9x (weaker than normal Thor), 1.5x stronger, 1.98x stronger, etc. He's not more than 2x stronger because there is no proof that he was. He didn't apply a force more than 2x greater than a normal Thor could.
WW said Zoom hits harder than Superman when Zoom.
Originally posted by Bentley
Kal wouldn't be able to no-sell Thor nor Blackbolt like Thanos did. He can beat them both, but the strength difference isn't so much that Kal can no-sell them. Superman's physical endurance isn't superior to Thanos.That's my claim and I don't see how it's up to discussion.
Thanos never no sold Thor. Lightning doesn't count because it is energy projection. All the times Thanos was hit physically by a herald he was affected. Thor in the past has rocked the shit out of Thanos.
Thanos has no endurance feats.
But endurance is irrelevant when someone can knock you out in a matter of moments.
Originally posted by Dream StuffWow. Why not just go with what the writer wants to show? Why make up stuff when this stuff is fictional and never really happened? Zoom, while holding back can hit harder than Superman. Simple as that.
You can also argue that WW, being able to see Kal's punches coming (he wasn't "moving through time," or whatever gibberish it is that allows Zoom to simultaneously not move faster than her, yet still punch at a high-herald level supposedly because of superior speed), she was able to avoid taking them as squarely as she has to take Zoom's.She didn't say that Zoom "hits harder," after all, just that it "hurts more." Punches you don't see coming can hurt a lot more.
The IMP has infinite potential. That is why it is called the "Infinite Mass Punch".
It's based off the special theory of relativity.
Originally posted by h1a8
What has Thanos done to say his endurance is better than Kal's?
Did he fight for days, years, etc?Endurance is irrelevant if someone can fight for hours but ko you in a matter of minutes.
Because Superman is stronger than Thanos, can rock Thanos with his punches, and
because Zoom hits harder than Superman.Do you know what " a herald's hit" means? It doesn't mean energy projection at all.
Every time a high herald being "physically hit" Thanos, Thanos was rocked, affected, etc. He never no sold anything related to a physical hit from a high herald level being, not even close. PG Thor made him bleed and was rocking the shit out of him. PG Thor wasn't proven to be more than 2x stronger than normal Thor. Zoom can hit harder than Superman. There is no limit to how hard Zoom can hit when he employs the IMP.
PG thor was way beyond 2 times the strength he was knocking thanos all over the place WITHOUT a hammer.
As for the thread thanos eventually wins. Give this guy 5 minutes prep and he would give a skyfather a hell of a run.
I think the best part of this thread is how people are arguing Zoom punches out Thanos by referencing a comic where WONDER WOMAN takes everything he throws at her (Supposedly Superman plus attacks) and gets right back up. While tagging him blinded. Because she used a rock as a distraction. 😐
That is just so utterly retarded, that it defies comprehension. Thanos is so much more durable then Wonder Woman, that the comparison in itself hurts Zoom's argument.
Not to mention that while analyzing this statement, people seem to forget how Wonder Woman actually handled Superman's punches in comparison to Zoom. ALSO Powergirl enduring millions (Billions?) of punches from Zoom or the other heroes.
What I'm saying is that this thread is silly so far. Zoom has faced Wonder Woman, Superman, Powergirl etc. and has not outpunched them. Yet he is somehow going to outpunch Thanos. Some type of speed based argument I can understand, but this? Smh.
Zoom MAYBE, MAYBE, hurts Thanos a bit with like a gazillion super speed blows like he did Superman. Then he gets AOE'd.
I just don't understand how a thread can reach 3 pages and yet no one comes to the conclusion that all evidence points to Zoom NOT being able to outpunch anyone with Herald level durability. At least in any reasonable scenario where they fight back.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think the best part of this thread is how people are arguing Zoom punches out Thanos by referencing a comic where WONDER WOMAN takes everything he throws at her (Supposedly Superman plus attacks) and gets right back up. While tagging him blinded. Because she used a rock as a distraction. 😐That is just so utterly retarded, that it defies comprehension. Thanos is so much more durable then Wonder Woman, that the comparison in itself hurts Zoom's argument.
Not to mention that while analyzing this statement, people seem to forget how Wonder Woman actually handled Superman's punches in comparison to Zoom. ALSO Powergirl enduring millions (Billions?) of punches from Zoom or the other heroes.
What I'm saying is that this thread is silly so far. Zoom has faced Wonder Woman, Superman, Powergirl etc. and has not outpunched them. Yet he is somehow going to outpunch Thanos. Some type of speed based argument I can understand, but this? Smh.
Zoom MAYBE, MAYBE, hurts Thanos a bit with like a gazillion super speed blows like he did Superman. Then he gets AOE'd.
I just don't understand how a thread can reach 3 pages and yet no one comes to the conclusion that all evidence points to Zoom NOT being able to outpunch anyone with Herald level durability. At least in any reasonable scenario where they fight back.
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Hitting Wonder Woman, and saying that it would hurt Thanos because it hurt her is crazy. If Zoom hit Thanos, Thanos could always hit Zoom back with TP or mysticism. Thanos is so much more than Diana that it isn't funny. We aren't taling about some simple brick that only has physical powers to through around, Thanos has shields, and other tools to bring to the table that Zoom would have a hard time dealing with. This is why he would trash Zoom with minimum effort.