Zoom self bfrs himself to do something that won't effect 616 Thanos? In a neutral setting
Originally posted by celeyhyga17Odin sucks. Low showing on Odin's part, Thanos isn't even durable. Zoom hits harder than Superman. What's Odin got on that?
PIS off.. Hmm...
Unless Zoom attacks at Gungnir level, Thanos wins.Oh wait. That won't work. Thanos walked down a continued Gungnir assault..
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Zoom self bfrs himself to do something that won't effect 616 Thanos? In a neutral setting
Odin sucks. Low showing on Odin's part, Thanos isn't even durable. Zoom hits harder than Superman. What's Odin got on that?
Originally posted by SquallX
Darkseid is also a fundamental being in the grand schemes of things. Don't mean he can't die.
Thanos can not die unless Death permits it. Don't you get it? If not you have to read some comics with Thanos in them, not that I am saying that you have not done so, but it's right there. It says that Death basically kicked her man out of her realm. Zoom is certainly not going to be killing Thanos, however the same can not be said about Zoom not being killed by Thanos. Darkseid on the other hand can die, and is not the Avy of Death.
Originally posted by Stoic
Thanos can not die unless Death permits it. Don't you get it? If not you have to read some comics with Thanos in them, not that I am saying that you have not done so, but it's right there. It says that Death basically kicked her man out of her realm. Zoom is certainly not going to be killing Thanos, however the same can not be said about Zoom not being killed by Thanos. Darkseid on the other hand can die, and is not the Avy of Death.
That's only if Zoom steps out of his timeline, though (also depends on which Zoom this is lol).
When Zoom is in his OWN timeline, its not self-BFR if he changes someone else's timeline. Because he is, in effect, always outside of it.
Originally posted by Stoic
Thanos can not die unless Death permits it. Don't you get it? If not you have to read some comics with Thanos in them, not that I am saying that you have not done so, but it's right there. It says that Death basically kicked her man out of her realm. Zoom is certainly not going to be killing Thanos, however the same can not be said about Zoom not being killed by Thanos. Darkseid on the other hand can die, and is not the Avy of Death.
And Darkseid can only die if the Presence permits it.
In 1 story, Darkseid's death cause an anomaly throughout the Multiverse because he was removed from the timeline.
While in another one, after Spectre Jordan killed him, he was resurrected and claimed he cannot die because someone that his higher than Spectre force needs him to live.
Thanos can always be Bfr if needs be.
Originally posted by SquallX
And Darkseid can only die if the Presence permits it.In 1 story, Darkseid's death cause an anomaly throughout the Multiverse because he was removed from the timeline.
While in another one, after Spectre Jordan killed him, he was resurrected and claimed he cannot die because someone that his higher than Spectre force needs him to live.
Thanos can always be Bfr if needs be.
Zoom is not Darkseid, as great as his power is, he still has a mind, and can be affected by magic.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's only if Zoom steps out of his timeline, though (also depends on which Zoom this is lol).When Zoom is in his OWN timeline, its not self-BFR if he changes someone else's timeline. Because he is, in effect, always outside of it.
If this is the case, I guess Zoom could also defeat Galactus, or several other cosmic entities even though he is far below them in power simply by changing their origins, before they could react. No limits for Zoom? Is this what you are willing to say?
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Nah dawg Thanos sucks. Thor moved his head with a huge hammer hit, and Thor has no feats that say he hit harder than Superman.Zoom hits harder than Thor, broski, and if Thor can move Thanos' head, then Zoom would punch it off. Simple mathematics.
Thor seriously hurt Thanos. Thanos doesn't cry in pain, it's against his character. He even likes pain at times.
We know it affected him on the scale of his losing (being koed) because Thanos chose to catch the 2nd swing instead of tank it. He could have easily tanked another and retaliated on Thor if it didn't affect him in that way. But he caught it and then retaliated. Thus the hit endangered Thanos.
Now with that said, you are going by one showing for Thanos (recent showing against Thor) while trying to use history of showings for Zoom. Thanos has always been affected by high herald level physical hits (he never ever no sold one when hit).
Next, we know that the reason Zoom hits hard because of the special theory of relativity as explained in D.C. The closer an object gets to the speed of light then more mass they gain. Reaching the exact speed of light means that the object has infinite mass. That explains why it is reasonable to suggest that Zoom hits harder than Superman, while holding back.
Written well, without being nerfed, Zoom should have the capability of one shotting Thanos at will.
Also it doesn't matter as Zoom has an eternity to beat Thanos. Thanos would be nothing more than a frozen statue for billions of Zoom's years.
Originally posted by h1a8
Written well, without being nerfed, Zoom should have the capability of one shotting Thanos at will.
This entire post was dumb but this part was especially retarded.
Zoom written well? I.e. ignoring literally every single one of his appearances ever and pretty much basing your opinion on nothing, not even a hint or suggestion?
Well, points for some decent trolling I guess.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympuslet's see
This entire post was dumb but this part was especially retarded.Zoom written well? I.e. ignoring literally every single one of his appearances ever and pretty much basing your opinion on nothing, not even a hint or suggestion?
Well, points for some decent trolling I guess.
Zoom doesn't kill heroes. That is evidence towards his showings.
The IMP was explained to being able to generate unlimited mass. That is evidence there.
I disagree that you believe the rest of my post was dumb. This is a PISLESS environment. That means Zoom would see Thanos as a statue and hit him with harder than Superman punches as much as he wants.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusHe's really trying to up his trolling.
This entire post was dumb but this part was especially retarded.Zoom written well? I.e. ignoring literally every single one of his appearances ever and pretty much basing your opinion on nothing, not even a hint or suggestion?
Well, points for some decent trolling I guess.
Glad he's on ignore.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85But Zoom's own timeline isn't someone else's. There's also the part where he'd have to enter basically another universe, travel to Titan, kill the parents, and this is all under the assumption that this would even effect 616 Thanos anyway.
That's only if Zoom steps out of his timeline, though (also depends on which Zoom this is lol).When Zoom is in his OWN timeline, its not self-BFR if he changes someone else's timeline. Because he is, in effect, always outside of it.
Also, what Stoic said. No limits fallacy. What's stopping him from doing this to Galactus on the forums? Zoom knocks out the Phoenix Force by killing the user in the past. Basically any character that has ever had a vulnerable beginning creates an opening for Zoom.
Oh, and there's also the part where Zoom needed Prof Zoom to take him to the past:
http://i57.tinypic.com/2ntacci.jpg
When Zoom tried to use it he exploded.
http://i58.tinypic.com/1530fmq.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/2vbo1o6.jpg
So...
If Zoom has the cosmic treadmill, and a Flash or Prof Zoom, and travels in a spaceship to titan, and they know exactly when Thanos was born, they would be able to destroy Thanos as a baby.
Which shouldn't even effect 616 Thanos. And they would be self bfr'ing themselves in the process.
