Thor vs. Avengers Hulk Rematch

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I like how every time the scenes transition, FF assumes the only plausible off-panel happenings are those he asserts without any on-panel evidence.

I suspect he is Oscar Pistorious' lawyer.

I'm not arguing or asserting anything here. I actually admitted that I can't prove Loki broke any bones. I said that I would be comfortable BETTING that Loki broke some bones, if we could hypothetically go back to the scene and check with an XRay. It was just an off-hand comment and you're trying to associate it with my main argument. You can go sit yo ass back down now. OK 👆

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah, we can't keep on guessing what happens off-panel. Might as well say Thor suffered a concussion and Hulk suffered a broken jaw and Maria Hill had multiple internal injuries, etc.

That's called inventing stuff up. We need to just stick to what we see on screen.

I've never used off-panel assumptions in my reasoning. The Loki comment is completely unrelated.

Originally posted by Firefly218
I'm not arguing or asserting anything here. I actually admitted that I can't prove Loki broke any bones. I said that I would be comfortable [B]BETTING that Loki broke some bones, if we could hypothetically go back to the scene and check with an XRay. It was just an off-hand comment and you're trying to associate it with my main argument. You can go sit yo ass back down now. OK 👆 [/B]

You personally finding it good odds isn't an argument, and isn't related to the thread at hand. As has been reinforced time and time again, Thor is superior here, especially given evidence of him being weakened, holding back, and not using his full agility/moveset.

/thread.

Originally posted by Firefly218
I'm not arguing or asserting anything here. I actually admitted that I can't prove Loki broke any bones. I said that I would be comfortable [B]BETTING that Loki broke some bones, if we could hypothetically go back to the scene and check with an XRay. It was just an off-hand comment and you're trying to associate it with my main argument. You can go sit yo ass back down now. OK 👆 [/B]

Ok let's bet, the loser has to stop posting in the movie forum for 2 years. are you game?

I wouldn't give Firefly money to gamble for me with those kind of bets.

Thor wins.

I bet that the in off panel portion of the Thor/Hulk fight, Hulk started crying; which caused Thor to fall on the floor laughing and that's what we see when the fight cuts back with Hulk grabbing a laying on his back Thor.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?

Based on the fact that Thor was giving Hulk a hard fight despite him holding back.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Based on the fact that Thor was giving Hulk a hard fight despite him holding back.

Kurse is way more powerful than either, so that's irrelevant. Thor is weakened and holding back and still matched Hulk.

Without plot induced restrictions, he stomps.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Kurse is way more powerful than either, so that's irrelevant. Thor is weakened and holding back and still matched Hulk.

Without plot induced restrictions, he stomps.

Did you read a book about the movie and see the word Maiar somewhere ?

You don't get to ignore how these guys fight in the movie. You're clearly biased.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Kurse is way more powerful than either, so that's irrelevant. Thor is weakened and holding back and still matched Hulk.

Without plot induced restrictions, he stomps.

I agree.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I agree.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk can take what Thor dishes out. The same can't be said for Thor. References the Kurse beating. He wasn't holding back there.

Hulk is not Kurse. You can't use Kurse's feats to claim that Hulk can do the same.

Kurse is proven to be stronger and a better fighter than Hulk basing off their respective performances against Thor.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Hulk is not Kurse. You can't use Kurse's feats to claim that Hulk can do the same.

Kurse is proven to be stronger and a better fighter than Hulk basing off their respective performances against Thor.

I say Hulk is greater based off feats. He has also humiliated Thor in combat by punching him. He clearly held back as well yet was still winning.

Beating down Thor is highly effective.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Hulk is not Kurse. You can't use Kurse's feats to claim that Hulk can do the same.

Kurse is proven to be stronger and a better fighter than Hulk basing off their respective performances against Thor.

True, by feats the Hulk doesn't stand much of a chance against a non-holding back Thor.

Originally posted by Silent Master
True, by feats the Hulk doesn't stand much of a chance against a non-holding back Thor.

When we see Hulk and Thor go at it Hulk looked superior too.

Hulk also looked far better in the movie in general than Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am showing you beating him down physically is quite effective.

I say Hulk is greater based off feats. He has also humiliated Thor in combat by punching him. He clearly held back as well yet was still winning.

Beating down Thor is highly effective.

No one ever said that beating down Thor physically isn't effective. Just that it's not easy to do. Kurse was able to do it. Hulk didn't.

Don't see how you think Hulk sucker punching Thor is humiliation on Thor's part. An enraged Hulk bent on killing teammates certainly did not hold back against Thor.

And no, there was no clear winner in that fight. Both of them had their moments.

Originally posted by quanchi112
By feats neither should Kurse. Oh wait.

When we see Hulk and Thor go at it Hulk looked superior too.

Hulk also looked far better in the movie in general than Thor.

We've been through this multiple times. Hulk looked stronger and more durable, but Thor looked superior in speed and fighting skill. Difference is that Hulk was going all out whereas Thor was holding back and using only part of his overall power.

Don't see how you think Hulk looked better in the movie when he took down only 1 leviathan whereas Thor took down 2.