on a side note. could someone please explain to me how kurse who is 4 times stronger than thor is still considered by people as low herald, while hulk who is not as strong is considered high herald? i know a characters level is desided by the overall damage one can do. but isnt all hulk got as far as damage is just strength like kurse?.
the criteria for a high herald is being able to destroy a planet. somebody has a doubt that someone who is 4 times stronger than thor can bust a planet? i think kurse is a trans leveler and should be considered as one.
Originally posted by h1a8
Faster
Cutting weapons
Healing factor
Adaptive abilities
You were stuck on the stronger part earlier, but I'm trying to understand why you held that stance? Superman is not stronger than Hyperion, Blue Marvel, and several other characters of that weight class. The reason for me saying this is due to past feats, and that they have fought guys on that level, and held their own. Kurse is stronger than Superman based on this premise. He is also stronger than Doomsday simply due to Thor being close in strength to Superman alone. I really don't care about the earth weight argument because it's really not quantifiable since there are times that all of these characters struggle with far less weight than that.
You have to either forget about the earth weight argument, or settle for all of the characters in that weight class having the ability to replicate said feat if written that way. As far as we all saw, Thor was able to contend with Superman and even stated that he had his measure. If you are not willing to settle for the idea that all characters in that weight class has the ability to lift as much as Superman, then you simply can not give Doomsday the feat, because he has never been seen lifting that amount of weight.
The Hulk has done so in the past, and Thor has matched him or nearly matched him in brute strength. the same goes for Doomday. The difference between Doomsday and the Hulk is that the Hulk could eventually become as strong or stronger than Kurse due to his power set, Doomsday does not, and will not continue to grow stronger before he is killed. This is where Kurse will be the one pushing him around, and since Doomsday just keeps coming for more, he will simply be destroyed. End of fight. Kurse will win.
Originally posted by JuggernautMania
on a side note. could someone please explain to me how kurse who is 4 times stronger than thor is still considered by people as low herald, while hulk who is not as strong is considered high herald? i know a characters level is desided by the overall damage one can do. but isnt all hulk got as far as damage is just strength like kurse?.
the criteria for a high herald is being able to destroy a planet. somebody has a doubt that someone who is 4 times stronger than thor can bust a planet? i think kurse is a trans leveler and should be considered as one.
Your question blatantly ignores the Hulk's power set. You need only remember the dynamic strength potential, and it will tell you that the Hulk is never on the same level, but can transcend the Herald tier in terms of strength. He's done it before, and will likely do it again in the future. The Hulk should really stay out of this discussion, because he's another story entirely. Should I bring up more examples of how the Hulk has always been written? Take the Secret Wars feat of him holding up a mountain, and look at who was also there with him. He was written to be the muscle, and although the feat isn't much today due to the muscle race, he is still set up to be the strongest. Then Again the same applies to Superman. Look at the dramatic strength increase that he underwent from the time of DOS up until the Flashpoint era. it does not change the fact that he was, and still is the flagship that all other characters are compared to. The same applies for the Hulk.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He can still be beaten to death according to the writer of this arc. We see him later easily crushed by two Superman. Kurse wins.
This is HP DD. I don't know what you are talking about. Jurgens wrote DD to be unbeatable except by the end of time.
Anyway. DD has everything Kurse has plus more. Thus he wins.
Speed and Healing Factor alone is a huge advantage to overcome. Kurse wouldn't make any progress. DD would just heal back to new (Assuming Kurse even touches DD).