Originally posted by deathslash
He hasn't been directly stated to be more powerful than darkseid so you can't draw the conclusion that he is. Just because he can now shoot an imitation of the Omega Beams from his eyes, that doesn't mean that he's more powerful than darkseid. Most of the things that he's done are things that the normal superman can do. BRUTAAL IS NOT BEATING ZUES.
no genius. he was stated to be one par with darkseid before the amp. so now lets see.... lets do math are you ready? if before the upgrade he is on par with darkseid, what happens after the UPGRADE? i will leave you to think it out.
Originally posted by JuggernautMania
no genius. he was stated to be one par with darkseid before the amp. so now lets see.... lets do math are you ready? if before the upgrade he is on par with darkseid, what happens after the UPGRADE? i will leave you to think it out.
Depends if he had an upgrade.
He has different powers, sure. Doesn't mean his other powers are at the same levels they were before his 'death'.
Originally posted by JuggernautManiaFirst and foremost, don't insult my intelligence (especially with your horid capitalization). Second, Brutaal hasn't even fought anyone that Darkseid couldn't, hasn't displayed any more power than the regular superman, and hasn't been directly shown to have gotten a significant upgrade (if any upgrade at all).
no genius. he was stated to be one par with darkseid before the amp. so now lets see.... lets do math are you ready? if before the upgrade he is on par with darkseid, what happens after the UPGRADE? i will leave you to think it out.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Depends if he had an upgrade.He has different powers, sure. Doesn't mean his other powers are at the same levels they were before his 'death'.
he did have an upgrade as was stated and we see he got the omega beams. yeah right an upgrade that makes him weaker ... you serious?
Originally posted by deathslash
First and foremost, don't insult my intelligence (especially with your horid capitalization). Second, Brutaal hasn't even fought anyone that Darkseid couldn't, hasn't displayed any more power than the regular superman, and hasn't been directly shown to have gotten a significant upgrade (if any upgrade at all).
you are insulting yourself by bringing false statements. doesnt matter who brutaal fought. it was stated he was on par with darkseid before the amp. after the amp clean logic tells us he is darkseid +
Originally posted by JuggernautMania
he did have an upgrade as was stated and we see he got the omega beams. yeah right an upgrade that makes him weaker ... you serious?
His energy projection was upgraded. Was his flight speed? His strength? His fighting skills? His stamina? Was this all stated?
Was it stated its Superman?
Until you can prove all of this, your logic is based on nothing more than assumptions, which may or may not be flawed.
Originally posted by JuggernautManiadid you just say that feats don't matter? Beating a featless army and nearly featless superheroes doesn't make Brutaal powerful. All that has clearly been shown to be upgraded was his energy projection and since we don't truly know that Brutaal is really superman, we can't say that he is any stronger than the regular superman. You know you're wrong when the entire forum population thinks that Brutaal isn't powerful enough to compete with Zues.
you are insulting yourself by bringing false statements. doesnt matter who brutaal fought. it was stated he was on par with darkseid before the amp. after the amp clean logic tells us he is darkseid +
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
His energy projection was upgraded. Was his flight speed? His strength? His fighting skills? His stamina? Was this all stated?Was it stated its Superman?
Until you can prove all of this, your logic is based on nothing more than assumptions, which may or may not be flawed.
he doesnt need everything upgraded in order to be more powerful. even if only his energy projection was upgraded that means he is already more powerful than he used to be. which means more powerful than he was when he was equal to darkseid.
and yes its superman its very clear already even stated in his bio.
Originally posted by deathslash
did you just say that feats don't matter? Beating a featless army and nearly featless superheroes doesn't make Brutaal powerful. All that has clearly been shown to be upgraded was his energy projection and since we don't truly know that Brutaal is really superman, we can't say that he is any stronger than the regular superman. You know you're wrong when the entire forum population thinks that Brutaal isn't powerful enough to compete with Zues.
featless? those guys stood up to heralds perfectly fine. one of them killed wonder woman. the way brutaal dispatched them no herald could or would.
its already very clear and even stated in his bio that he is superman with upgrades. even only energy upgrade is still an upgrade which make him more powerful.
i couldnt care less what the entire forum thinks, where are the zeus feats? his best feat as a skyfather for dozens of years is beating the hulk are you shitting me? during his entire career he was hit and put on his ass by heralds left and right, zeus by feats is going down.
Originally posted by JuggernautMania
he doesnt need everything upgraded in order to be more powerful. even if only his energy projection was upgraded that means he is already more powerful than he used to be. which means more powerful than he was when he was equal to darkseid.
and yes its superman its very clear already even stated in his bio.
OK, so his new upgraded self has more power than HV.
What were the exact words used to describe Superman to Darkseid?
And its been stated? Where?