Brutaal VS Zeus

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
featless? those guys stood up to heralds perfectly fine. one of them killed wonder woman. the way brutaal dispatched them no herald could or would.
its already very clear and even stated in his bio that he is superman with upgrades. even only energy upgrade is still an upgrade which make him more powerful.
i couldnt care less what the entire forum thinks, where are the zeus feats? his best feat as a skyfather for dozens of years is beating the hulk are you shitting me? during his entire career he was hit and put on his ass by heralds left and right, zeus by feats is going down.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
OK, so his new upgraded self has more power than HV.

What were the exact words used to describe Superman to Darkseid?

And its been stated? Where?

at the very least his new upgrade has the omega beams of darkseid, as far as we see his physical abilities are greater than superman used to have based on how easily he dispatched fate and atom, not to mention karate chop in half the guy who killed wonder woman.

it was stated he was a peer to darkseid before the upgrade.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Every character has low feats. Zeus has dropped herald level characters before and he fought Hulk while handicapping himself and he still wreck Hulk at his own game very few characters can straight up own Hulk in a strictly h2h fight. Zeus wins

every character has more standard and high feats to suggest the low feats are actually low ones. zeus has a majority of those "low" feats which makes me believe those are his feats.

dont forget one thing, zeus magic charged punches canceled hulk's healing factor and prevented him from healing. if it didnt happen who knows what would happen , hulk would heal and only get madder and stronger.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
featless? those guys stood up to heralds perfectly fine. one of them killed wonder woman. the way brutaal dispatched them no herald could or would.

By that he means -a featless- Steppenwolf came up from behind and stabbed -a featless- Wonder Woman. The best part is that using his logic, Wonder Woman historically has utterly shitty piercing durability.

No herald would or could? Lol, for all we know, Fandral could have replicated Steppenwolf's scene.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
By that he means -a featless- Steppenwolf came up from behind and stabbed -a featless- Wonder Woman. The best part is that using his logic, Wonder Woman historically has utterly shitty piercing durability.

Plenty of heralds have way better feats.

again everybody from that universe act and have the powers of their counterparts from the mainstream one. no reason in the world to believe in that case those are any different.
non of the heralds was able to dispatch atom and fate that easily when they fought.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
again everybody from that universe act and have the powers of their counterparts from the mainstream one. no reason in the world to believe in that case those are any different.

We do not assume alternate Universe counterparts automatically have the equal power levels of the mainstream ones. That is retarded reasoning, especially since historically, they are either fodder or not up to par.

At the end of the day, you need to back up your unsubstantiated opinion with at least some evidence. There's a reason why people don't consider King Hyperion Tyrant level.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
non of the heralds was able to dispatch atom and fate that easily when they fought.

We haven't seen any established heralds fight Atom and Fate.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
again everybody from that universe act and have the powers of their counterparts from the mainstream one. no reason in the world to believe in that case those are any different.
non of the heralds was able to dispatch atom and fate that easily when they fought.

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Originally posted by JuggernautMania
again everybody from that universe act and have the powers of their counterparts from the mainstream one. no reason in the world to believe in that case those are any different.
non of the heralds was able to dispatch atom and fate that easily when they fought.

Wonder woman has shit piercing durability though
I was going to write mmore but my connection cut out, then I saw Rages post which was the same.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
We do not assume alternate Universe counterparts automatically have the equal power levels of the mainstream ones. That is retarded reasoning, especially since historically, they are either fodder or not up to par.

At the end of the day, you need to back up your unsubstantiated opinion with at least some evidence. There's a reason why people don't consider King Hyperion Tyrant level.

We haven't seen any established heralds fight Atom and Fate.

i can easily work that to my favor. darkseid from eart 2 is more powerful that mainstream darkseid no doubt. and the superman from earth 2 was stated to be his equal which means he is more powerful than the superman from earth 2. in that case its safe to say brutaal is much more powerful than mainstream superman. also it gives us a clue that probably everybody on earth 2 are more powerful than their counterparts.

Does that mean the earth is harder, air is airyer, space is spacier too?

no but the characters are more powerful.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
i can easily work that to my favor. darkseid from eart 2 is more powerful that mainstream darkseid no doubt. and the superman from earth 2 was stated to be his equal which means he is more powerful than the superman from earth 2. in that case its safe to say brutaal is much more powerful than mainstream superman. also it gives us a clue that probably everybody on earth 2 are more powerful than their counterparts.

The Darkseid on Earth 2 is the same Darkseid that invaded Earth 1 lol. Also, it was stated that Earth 2 Superman rivaled his strength IIRC. Which just confirms he's herald level (By Pre-52, Thor, Superman, Hulk etc. standards) and I have no idea why you think that supports him beating up Zeus? Using that logic, it's been stated that Zeus rivals Dormammu and ODIN in power. So best case scenario, Brutaal is as strong as Darkseid and Zeus is as powerful as Odin. How exactly do you think they are even comparable in that case?

That's a huge jump from Superman/Darkseid to the majority of the entire goddamn Universe being more powerful, lol.

All of them? Or are you assuming?

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
no but the characters are more powerful.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
i can easily work that to my favor. darkseid from eart 2 is more powerful that mainstream darkseid no doubt. and the superman from earth 2 was stated to be his equal which means he is more powerful than the superman from earth 2. in that case its safe to say brutaal is much more powerful than mainstream superman. also it gives us a clue that probably everybody on earth 2 are more powerful than their counterparts.

It said his STRENGTH rivaled Darkseid.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
every character has more standard and high feats to suggest the low feats are actually low ones. zeus has a majority of those "low" feats which makes me believe those are his feats.

dont forget one thing, zeus magic charged punches canceled hulk's healing factor and prevented him from healing. if it didnt happen who knows what would happen , hulk would heal and only get madder and stronger.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
We haven't seen any established heralds fight Atom and Fate.

Atom displayed nothing even in the low herald tier. Fate had just gotten the helmet and was scared shitless of it on top of having no feats. Oh, and 100% correct about featless Steppenwolf 👆

Zeus=Odin=Dormammu in power and might >>>> Brutaal

Brutaal chops Zeus in half with his right hand, and chops Odin in half with his left hand simultaneously.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Darkseid on Earth 2 is the same Darkseid that invaded Earth 1 lol. Also, it was stated that Earth 2 Superman rivaled his strength IIRC. Which just confirms he's herald level (By Pre-52, Thor, Superman, Hulk etc. standards) and I have no idea why you think that supports him beating up Zeus? Using that logic, it's been stated that Zeus rivals Dormammu and ODIN in power. So best case scenario, Brutaal is as strong as Darkseid and Zeus is as powerful as Odin. How exactly do you think they are even comparable in that case?

That's a huge jump from Superman/Darkseid to the majority of the entire goddamn Universe being more powerful, lol.

darkseid from earth 2 demonstrated greater power than mainstream darkseid its a new darkseid. it was stated he rivals darkseid in power. power = overall abilities. basically superman was darkseid peer, however after the upgrade it was made clear he is darkseid +.
statements doesnt hold a candle when showings contradict them. however brutaal has showings that support that claim by actually proving he was upgraded therefor its not the same case.