Originally posted by abhilegendBruce at his highest feats would be ridiculous. Dude has overpowered wonder woman in h2h FFS.
We gotta include Bruce's showings from his own books too (good and bad) to get a better average. Also, Bruce would NOT be at 100% after fighting everyone lead in up to Daredevil, and Matt is too good not to take advantage.
Originally posted by JayDaDonYour right. Steve will just give up and slam his face into bruce's fist to insta KO -_-.
He did that with skill. Bloodlust would only make Bruce sloppy. If he's sloppy he's won't even be touching Steve.
Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
I think it makes him better. if he's joker level bloodlusted he will win against cap 1vs1. But since he cant rest he stops ad DD
What is Joker level bloodlusted? "Bloodlusted"and "insane" aren't identical terms. They can interweave yet remain separate references within a comic sense.
And being bloodlusted makes Bruce more rabid and less thoughtful. That mixed with him not having access to his gear = a loss against Rogers.
Batman vs Cap is a fantastic fight that under normal circumstances could arguably go either way. Bruce is handicapped hardcore here, so the win goes to Captain America.
Originally posted by Odekahnwhat i mean by joker bloodlusted is like if joker kills barbra. Imagine the blood boiling rage bruce will feel. Basicly his highest level of anger EVER
What is Joker level bloodlusted? "Bloodlusted"and "insane" aren't identical terms. They can interweave yet remain separate references within a comic sense.And being bloodlusted makes Bruce more rabid and less thoughtful. That mixed with him not having access to his gear = a loss against Rogers.
Batman vs Cap is a fantastic fight that under normal circumstances could arguably go either way. Bruce is handicapped hardcore here, so the win goes to Captain America.
Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
blames himself. Then becomes angry with himself. Blames it on joker then leaves to find joker
Exactly. He's not going to sit around and plot about how to take on Joker, he's just going to go. He's not going to think everything through while he's in that state of mind.
Bruce's greatest asset isn't his speed, endurance, strength, or weapons. It's his intelligence, and in this scenario Bruce doesn't have the control over his mind that normally makes him so dangerous.
Bruce's strategic, thoroughness, attention to detail, analyzing, and decision making skills are all affected for the worse here. Add in his lack of weapons, and no rest/healing = stops at 5.
Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
Your right. Steve will just give up and slam his face into bruce's fist to insta KO -_-.
he might lose is advantage od analizeing but he'll still be better h2h, tie in stamina and intellegence
Bruce's advantage in skill isn't anywhere close enough to account for the speed, strength and durability edge Cap holds. But please show me all these cases of Cap being beaten in the way you describe.
Originally posted by namorsubby
Yes, you are.Both these characters have respective advantages. Cap in physical stats according to feats, although Bruce is comparable. Bruce has a clear advantage in skill by way of documented martial arts training and knowledge on panel.
Again, you're incorrect. Cap has comparable skill and better stats...this was gone over multiple times in the Batman vs Cap thread.
As it's clear that we disagree, why don't we just get back up topic?
There's nothing to disagree about.....what's on panel speaks for itself. Steve has the physical advantage, Bruce has the skill advantage. They're both comparable, even in the respective disadvantages. I understand you don't wish this to be so, but tough cookies....
Batman clears or stops at cap. It's really a toss up.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
We gotta include Bruce's showings from his own books too (good and bad) to get a better average. Also, Bruce would NOT be at 100% after fighting everyone lead in up to Daredevil, and Matt is too good not to take advantage.
Originally posted by namorsubby
There's nothing to disagree about.....what's on panel speaks for itself. Steve has the physical advantage, Bruce has the skill advantage. They're both comparable, even in the respective disadvantages. I understand you don't wish this to be so, but tough cookies....Batman clears or stops at cap. It's really a toss up.
What part of As it's clear that we disagree, why don't we just get back up topic? did you not understand?