Originally posted by carver9
So Lobo can hit harder than Hulk and Thor?
Let's not kid outselves. Hulk on average is above these two. If Lobo is strong enough to hurt Superman and other top tiers in the DCU, he's powerful enough to do the same to Namor. Plus, I'd put Lobo above Pre- WW Hulk on average.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Let's not kid outselves. Hulk on average is above these two. If Lobo is strong enough to hurt Superman and other top tiers in the DCU, he's powerful enough to do the same to Namor. Plus, I'd put Lobo above Pre- WW Hulk on average.
The only reason I asked that is, Namor has taken hits from both without getting hole punched through him. Don't see why it would happen here.
Huh? WTF? What has Lobo done to make you think he is above someone like Savage or Professor Hulk. The guy hurt his hand punching Darkseid. Superman tanked some blows from him. I honestly don't see where you got this idea from unless you are using space cheese fts.
. That wasn't the real Darksied. Unless you can point out where DS took a side job in a blackhole time warp memory dimension place.
And LOBO is WAY better in H2H skill then Tantrum Hulk or Nerd Hulk. And LOBO doesn't like to BFR people cause HE can't fly and thus would have to go chase the victims sorry ass all over the place only to hit them again.
LOBO wails WM and Namor cause they aint got jack. And I don't see why people have to throw Hulk and Thor into this.
LOBO only uses HIs own natural abilities not Gamma Crutchs and Magic Daddy Hammers to win their fights.
Originally posted by carver9
So Lobo can hit harder than Hulk and Thor?
Unless you can provide a scan or some proof of either ever showing the sort of strength that pulls stellar mass out of the sky ( something Lobo did in L.E.G.I.O.N). than absolutely freakin yes. Stellar mass >>>>>>>>>> planet busting strength
Lobo could beat these two drunk just like he did the JLA, Superman, Captain Marvel, and L.E.G.I.O.N.
Originally posted by beatboks
Unless you can provide a scan or some proof of either ever showing the sort of strength that pulls stellar mass out of the sky ( something Lobo did in L.E.G.I.O.N). than absolutely freakin yes. Stellar mass >>>>>>>>>> planet busting strengthLobo could beat these two drunk just like he did the JLA, Superman, Captain Marvel, and L.E.G.I.O.N.
👆 People underestimate Lobo. Even after everything he has done.
Originally posted by beatboks
Unless you can provide a scan or some proof of either ever showing the sort of strength that pulls stellar mass out of the sky ( something Lobo did in L.E.G.I.O.N). than absolutely freakin yes. Stellar mass >>>>>>>>>> planet busting strengthLobo could beat these two drunk just like he did the JLA, Superman, Captain Marvel, and L.E.G.I.O.N.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He never beat JLA AFAIK, Superman was mindcontrolled in AOS 464 and has oneshot KTFO Lobo since, Cap was weakened in WOG. Lobo does win but its not just because of pure strength. His HF is his trump card here.
It was JLI now that i think about it. When he was pursuing a contract on Despero IIRC. The group included MMH, Booster, Beelte, Fire, Ice, WW and oberon in Ultron's body IIRC.
Not sure what you mean by WOG, but the instance I recall I can't remember anything about Billy being weakened. Billy was on a planet that Lobo had just been on a bender in a bar and he interupted his drinking session and Lobo smacked him around some. There wasn't any clear winner but Cap was on the receiving end of most of it (thoug not really damaged much).
I don't reacal Clark bing mind controlled in this one.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/lobo/2193526-superman_vs_lobo.jpg.html?sort=3&o=19
. Granted it's the worst writing ever because NO WAY should Lobo blitz Clark.
The only one I recall of Supes one shotting Lobo was when Eclispo had control of him. IIRC Phase made some comment about never having seen Lobo in that bad of shape.
Originally posted by beatboksI don't remember him beating JLI. Its a long time since I've read that series though.
It was JLI now that i think about it. When he was pursuing a contract on Despero IIRC. The group included MMH, Booster, Beelte, Fire, Ice, WW and oberon in Ultron's body IIRC.
Not sure what you mean by WOG, but the instance I recall I can't remember anything about Billy being weakened. Billy was on a planet that Lobo had just been on a bender in a bar and he interupted his drinking session and Lobo smacked him around some. There wasn't any clear winner but Cap was on the receiving end of most of it (thoug not really damaged much).It was revealed later that Cap was weakened.
I don't reacal Clark bing mind controlled in this one.Eradicator was mindcontrolling him at that moment.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/lobo/2193526-superman_vs_lobo.jpg.html?sort=3&o=19
. Granted it's the worst writing ever because NO WAY should Lobo blitz Clark.
The only one I recall of Supes one shotting Lobo was when Eclispo had control of him. IIRC Phase made some comment about never having seen Lobo in that bad of shape.He also knocked him and Lar Gand here.
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/teams/AdventuresOfAnnual02c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/teams/AdventuresOfAnnual02d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/teams/AdventuresOfAnnual02e.jpg
Written by Dan Jurgens who wrote AOS 464 too.
Man. Some REALLY OLD arguments being hashed out here.
1. Why would Supes being Mind Controlled by something called THE ERADICATOR weaken him?
2. That page reveals that Cap was weakened AFTER He fought with LOBO *a fight which at best can be called a draw* by being dragged back.
And the scans from that Superman Annula with Legion Guest app-ing..Cause on the next page. It doesn't show either Lar or LOBO being KNOCKED OUT! Only Lar appears weakened by the blow. Not LOBO! Its called CONTEXT. Try showing all of it next time not just the bits you want to push your theory.
And the ONLY TIME Supes has been shown to K.O LOBO was when he was MIND CONTROLLED by Eclipso. A being that was CLEARY shown to be able to AMP a person's power levels.
Hell. Supes didn't even K.O LOBO when he was undergoing that Sun Dipped Out of control Power surge after his death.
Fact.
LOBO can take WM and Namor in a fight.
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Originally posted by FlyattractorBecause it did? Superman was struggling with ****ing Draaga at that point?
[b]Man. Some REALLY OLD arguments being hashed out here.
1. Why would Supes being Mind Controlled by something called THE ERADICATOR weaken him?
2. That page reveals that Cap was weakened AFTER He fought with LOBO *a fight which at best can be called a draw* by being dragged back.Can you read? It was stated that the spells which created his body were weakening as soon as roman gods controlled him which was before he and diana fought.
And the scans from that Superman Annula with Legion Guest app-ing..Cause on the next page. It doesn't show either Lar or LOBO being KNOCKED OUT! Only Lar appears weakened by the blow. Not LOBO! Its called CONTEXT. Try showing all of it next time not just the bits you want to push your theoryWhat the **** are you talking about? They were shown after some time and the fight ended right there. Why would someone like Lobo would stop fighting when nothing happened to him? Not to mention he wanted revenge on Superman for bashing his head in Legion annual.
And the ONLY TIME Supes has been shown to K.O LOBO was when he was MIND CONTROLLED by Eclipso. A being that was CLEARY shown to be able to AMP a person's power levels.And who was stated to weaken by Superman's powers.
http://i.imgur.com/K9jbIig.jpg
Hell. Supes didn't even K.O LOBO when he was undergoing that Sun Dipped Out of control Power surge after his death.He wasn't trying to and his powers were just on a small surge at that point. Etrigan has KOED Lobo FFS.
Fact.He can. No doubt about it.
LOBO can take WM and Namor in a fight.
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