Darth Sion vs Kyp Durron

I believe the best tactic would be, step one, destroy his light saber.

Easier said than done.

I'm not sure why people always try to come up with ways Sion's opponent can defeat him and then argue that it's a likely hypothetical.

Why not just acknowledge his very effective attribute for what it is?

Sion didn't hold back against the Exile, or he wouldn't have been defeated like four times in a row... Each time saying she stood no chance against him. Seriously, Sion is shit. Kyp can kill him as many times as it takes for him to finally surrender and die. At least compared with the top dogs of the mythos, Sion is a joke. And Kyp is top fifteen.

Originally posted by Petrus
Sion didn't hold back against the Exile, or he wouldn't have been defeated like four times in a row... Each time saying she stood no chance against him. Seriously, Sion is shit. Kyp can kill him as many times as it takes for him to finally surrender and die. At least compared with the top dogs of the mythos, Sion is a joke. And Kyp is top fifteen.

Kyp top fifteen? Wut.

Yeah. Maybe top twenty.

Could you list the rest? This just seems hard to believe.

Kyp is supposedly very powerful. He's thrown capital ships around and rivals Luke iirc.

I heard freighters, like the Falcon, not capital ships, but I could be mistaken.

Yeah, probably. Still pretty big though.

I'll post my list later today. And also reasons why I think Kyp is top 20/15.

Do so, or risk my wrath.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
This is explicitly not the case.

Do your research.

Or maybe you should be doing yours?

"As long as the dark places of this world run through the cracks in my flesh, I cannot be killed."

-Darth Sion on Malachor V

"There will be another time [to kill Sion], but not now, not here, while Korriban runs through him."

-Darth Traya on Korriban

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Or maybe you should be doing yours?

"As long as the dark places of this world run through the cracks in my flesh, I cannot be killed."

[B]-Darth Sion on Malachor V

"There will be another time [to kill Sion], but not now, not here, while Korriban runs through him."

-Darth Traya on Korriban [/B]

Did you miss on the Republic ship where it said his body had thousands of wounds, including fractured bones and tears which he kept together through sheer force of will? Or that he has revived himself from death before when not on a Force nexus? His rage is aided by these places, but it is not the sole catalyst of his power.

NewGuy01 didn't say it was, he simply pointed out that Sion's ability when not on a nexus is not as infallible as people think.

His first post implies that Sion's regen is made absolute by nexi and that on neutral ground he could be slain.

So why then does Sion cheat death for the first time while not on a nexus? Why does he hold his body together together through sheer force of will on a Republic starship docked at some mining asteroid?

Is it a really dark side infused asteroid?

I could buy this if the narrative suggested he could only die off of a dark side nexus. It simply suggests the nexus makes him even more unstoppable. After all, its buff seems to make all of the powers of a dark side user improved, not just one.

For argument's sake, I'll throw Sion a bone and say they're in a ship on Dromund Kaas, giving him the full benefit of his powers.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
His first post implies that Sion's regen is made absolute by nexi and that on neutral ground he could be slain.

So why then does Sion cheat death for the first time while not on a nexus? Why does he hold his body together together through sheer force of will on a Republic starship docked at some mining asteroid?

Is it a really dark side infused asteroid?

I could buy this if the narrative suggested he could only die off of a dark side nexus. It simply suggests the nexus makes him even more unstoppable. After all, its buff seems to make all of the powers of a dark side user improved, not just one.

His power isn't absolute. Sion says that he can revive himself a hundred times when on a nexus, but it would be stupid to think he could do the same off of one.

I though he revived himself for the first time on Malachor? Wasn't it the MSG that fvcked him up so bad?

I've never denied Sion could regenerate fatal wounds without the aid of a Dark Nexus. I am saying that he cannot do this indefinitely without a Nexus fueling his power.

Regardless, Kyp has worlds more to his name in terms of combat ability, and Sion can be killed, albeit not easily.

Originally posted by Astor Ebligis
Easier said than done.

I'm not sure why people always try to come up with ways Sion's opponent can defeat him and then argue that it's a likely hypothetical.

Why not just acknowledge his very effective attribute for what it is?

People generally think a Vs. match-up is kind of boring when one fighter only wins because he can't be killed. It just doesn't make for a particularly imaginative scenario. If one guy is smarter, stronger etc, that's okay because those advantages can be countered or overcome, but if it's just "he wins because he can't be killed" then that's viewed as kind of a cheap way to win. Consequently they try and think of alternative ways the other guy could win to make it more interesting.

Put simply they don't "just acknowledge his very effective attribute for what it is" because that would be incredibly boring.

So who wins, Superman who can't hit back, or Batman with a golf club?