Cullens vs Immortals

Originally posted by The Spleen
Epic dodge. Biggest dodge ever.

I own you.

You make up screen feats and lie about them and misrepresent characters.

Show me screen feats or concede.

Oh right you can't.

Immortal has spleen on the ropes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Immortal has spleen on the ropes.

Alice has admitted that she cannot change the future in the movie.

Spleen admits she said that but still thinks she can.

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Isn't there one point in the movies where Jane sees herself getting attacked or something and the attack happens exactly the same when her vision comes true?

Originally posted by KingD19
Isn't there one point in the movies where Jane sees herself getting attacked or something and the attack happens exactly the same when her vision comes true?

No, Jane can't see the future.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Alice has admitted that she cannot change the future in the movie.

Spleen admits she said that but still thinks she can.

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Weird, I could have sworn I asked:

Has anyone provided a sufficient retort for how the Twilight vampires handle the massive power disparity as seen by Poseidon's tidal wave?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
No, Jane can't see the future.

Same question, but with Alice.

And no, Neme. Spleen hasn't answered that, nor did he answer how the vamps could deal with the vastly superior speed of the Gods.

Originally posted by KingD19
Same question, but with Alice.

And no, Neme. Spleen hasn't answered that, nor did he answer how the vamps could deal with the vastly superior speed of the Gods.

Yea she saw her and her crew get slaughtered from weaker people then Gods and she told them not to fight.

Originally posted by The Spleen
Epic dodge. Biggest dodge ever.

I own you.

Not really. He's completely correct. Your hypothetical on how you think vamp precog works doesn't mean jack shit when the film itself shows differently. You still got some RJ in ya 🙂

And here is definitive evidence that Gods are faster than Vampires.

YouTube video

@1:30 - Despite being a newborn vampire and faster/stronger than older vampires like Edward, Riley is easily taken off guard by Seth who wasn't moving all that fast.

@2:16 - While Victoria is fast, she's not that fast and aside from a burst of speed we can easily keep up with her.

@2:21 - Bella is still clearly human as this is Eclipse and she isn't turned until Breaking Dawn. But despite being a human, when Victoria lunges for her, she flinches and jumps because she can see her and react to her.

@2:55 - Riley knocks Seth over and double teams Edward with Victoria. Bella watches this entire fight happen because they aren't fighting at such a high speed like the Gods that humans are frozen in place and even Titans are slowed down.

@3:52-3:54 - Edward tossed Victoria a small distance, and barely gets behind her before she hits the ground to slam her into the ground. Ares on the other hand sent one human flying and killed 8 other people before he hit the wall.

Bella pretty much sat there and watched this entire fight. Yet when Ares killed the humans, they were dead before they could even raise their weapons.

Case in point, Gods are far faster than Vampires.

But....vamps have precog!!! Automatic win, right?

Edward can read minds(didn't help him in most of his fights like against Riley/Victoria, or Felix), and Alice can see the future(didn't help her stop any of the stuff from happening), and has a crap ton of limitations that severely hamper it's usage.

Like if a decision isn't firmly thought out, she might see several at once. Or if multiple people are involved, say for instance, a few gods coming up with a coordinated attack.

But damn man, you're right. Vamps got a lot going for them.

Ineffective precog is like a game breaker power. I doubt Superman could get a hit in.

Superman gets pwned. Edward reads his mind and he's like, "Hahaha, your race is dead. Nerd."

Superman gets so dejected he gives up. Then Edward tries to bite him only to break his fangs.

He'll lose the entire upper half of his skull trying to bite Superman, but maybe the ineffective vamp precog will show him how to get kryptonite. Vamp precog solves all problems. May as well have MorganGod on standby.

I just watched the Edward v Felix fight again. And Bella is shown watching them fight. So that's more evidence. But yeah, that precog man...works wonders.

So the vamps are slower and all around weaker, with shitty precog and lame Avatar-wannabe powers that the immortals easily outclass. How can the vamps lose here?

Gods move so fast they can kill 9 people before 1 of them can even move. Vampires have those same people watch them as they "speed" around.

Gods are so strong they cut clean through Titans and can easily crush them to pieces against walls and smash their heads like overripe fruit against the floor.

Only Alice has precog and it has a ton of conditions that make it good for pretty much everything except combat situations.

Only Benjamin has the Avatar powers.

So yeah, Vamps are lookin' strong.

But Edward stopped a car. Bet the immortals can't do that. Why would Greek Gods who can summon tidal waves be stronger than sparkly vamps who at best knocked down a tree?