Cullens vs Immortals

Started by The Spleen12 pages
Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Too bad you are a spleen and not a brain, other wise you would have noticed that Aro even stated that human technology is getting to a point that they pose a threat to Vampires. Have Gods ever had to worry about this?

Dodge. In no way, shape or form did you answer my question.

Originally posted by KingD19
Considering humans are standing still to Gods, if he wanted he could probably dodge or possibly even pick bullets out of flight. But also considering the durability the God's showed(smacking into the ocean from the top of Olympus, etc..) and that it took Titans to hurt them well he could potentially tank the bullets too.

Lol, I love it. "Probably, possibly, potentially." Epic speculation.

Truth be told, after a full clipm of AK fire Edward would be pissed off, while Zeus would be full of holes.

But onto the fight between Felix and Edward. It's one of my favorite fight scenes in the series, but if you notice Bella is pretty much following the entire fight, even when they blur around she sees what's going on. Ares was moving so fast that people were literally in ultra slow motion trying to react. He killed 9 people in the time it took for one guy to fly across that small room. And judging from the way he was moving, he was taking his time and showing off, he probably could have done it faster.
They were blurring and then stopping, she saw them when they slowed down. When they were speed blitzing she didn't see them.

Try again.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yep. In that same video he posted, Felix whose special power like Emmett is just greater strength than a normal vampire, is fighting a weakened Edward, and the greatest thing he does is crack some steps and the floor. Zeus whipped Ares through several feet of solid stone. And we never saw him again.
The floor was marble, babe. Edward was slammed into it with such force it cracked. Also, Edward did something the Gods cannot do. And BTW, the steps were shattered, not merely cracked.

Regen. Have a nice day 😄

Originally posted by The Spleen
Also, in the final fight scene in Immortals, the Gods were being stabbed and were bleeding by the Titans, who are far slower and not as strong as the Twivamps.

Just saying.

By all means, prove that they are far slower.

In terms of strength feats, Zeus arguably shits on all the Twivamps.

Originally posted by The Spleen
The floor was marble, babe. Edward was slammed into it with such force it cracked. Also, Edward did something the Gods cannot do. And BTW, the steps were shattered, not merely cracked.

Regen. Have a nice day 😄

Zeus is faster then all of them and they cant take fire. The fire chain he used would kill them.

The vampires can run fast in one direction, does not mean super speed. You have failed to prove how the vampires are faster considering the wolfs are pretty much just as fast and constantly running from them and getting caught a few times. The steps were shattered. Really strawman, the Gods cannot do that. Keep grasping at straws.

Originally posted by NemeBro
By all means, prove that they are far slower.

In terms of strength feats, Zeus arguably shits on all the Twivamps.

OK, I will concede that far slower was an exaggeration, but the Twivamps are clearly faster.

Zeus can be stabbed and will bleed. The Cullens are far more durable.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Zeus is faster then all of them and they cant take fire. The fire chain he used would kill them.

The vampires can run fast in one direction, does not mean super speed. You have failed to prove how the vampires are faster considering the wolfs are pretty much just as fast and constantly running from them and getting caught a few times. The steps were shattered. Really strawman, the Gods cannot do that. Keep grasping at straws.

Lol, Zeus is most certainly not faster. To burn them, he must first shatter them.

The Twivamps can move fast in all directions, it's right there in the movies. Fact.

Originally posted by The Spleen
OK, I will concede that far slower was an exaggeration, but the Twivamps are clearly faster.

Zeus can be stabbed and will bleed. The Cullens are far more durable.

Based on what? Seriously, by all means tell me.

Zeus can be stabbed by superhumans, sure. But if Zeus stabbed the Cullens, they would also bleed. Actually he could rip any of them in half.

How are the vampires faster? We have direct comparisons of humans reacting to vampires and humans reacting to Gods. When human's react to vampires, they aren't so slow they look like they're frozen in time. Ares kicked a man through the air and killed 9 of his friends before he hit the wall. No vampire has ever moved that fast.

And Neme is right, Zeus' strength/magic is on clear display as he knocks Ares more than a few feet through solid stone and leaves a gaping hole, as well as the statue pull.

Also his fire whip would set them ablaze as soon as it hits them due tot he sheer force behind it. They'd crack/shatter/crumble from a hit.

They are not faster, he has no proof or screen feats. He's just trolling and making stuff up without evidence.

Originally posted by The Spleen
Lol, Zeus is most certainly not faster. To burn them, he must first shatter them.

The Twivamps can move fast in all directions, it's right there in the movies. Fact.

He would break then in half before they could even blink and burn them alive before they could think.

Moving fast is not super speed, this is super speed, quit trolling without screen feats

YouTube video

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
They are not faster, he has no proof or screen feats. He's just trolling and making stuff up without evidence.
Lol, sure I am. I again refer you to Alice.

Go ahead, say she can't see the future when Gods are involved. I dare you.

She can't. Because she said she can't. If you're going to straight up ignore what the characters themselves said...well that's evidence that we basically win this debate.

Yes, she said she can't. But let me ask you this. Let's say a random movie character says they cannot speak spanish, then, a second later, they speak fluent spanish. Which takes precedence? What they said or what they did?

When in the movies did she display her ability to use her precognition on someone other than humans or vampires? Did she use it on the Quiluets? Did she use it on Renesmee?

And even if she did, how did she do it? The wiki said the closer she is to someone, or the more attuned, the easier it is. Well she's not attuned to any of the Gods. And even if her power did work, the Gods as proven by Ares are still vastly faster than them.

So she'd know Zeus is about to kick her in the titty, but she wouldn't be able to stop it.

Originally posted by KingD19
When in the movies did she display her ability to use her precognition on someone other than humans or vampires? Did she use it on the Quiluets? Did she use it on Renesmee?

And even if she did, how did she do it? The wiki said the closer she is to someone, or the more attuned, the easier it is. Well she's not attuned to any of the Gods. And even if her power did work, the Gods as proven by Ares are still vastly faster than them.

So she'd know Zeus is about to kick her in the titty, but she wouldn't be able to stop it.

See, did you watch the final fight of the Twilight movies? What is Alice doing to Aro at the end? She is showing him the future. And in this vision, there are....wait for it.........Wolves!!! Now, how was she able to see the Wolves in her vision? Because there were vampires involved in the vision. She was able to see the future of the vampires AND what was happening around them. She is ATTUNED to he family, therefore she can see their future and EVERYTHING and EVERYONE around her family in said vision.

So, according to what was SHOWN in the movie, Alice will be able to use her powers in full in this fight.

Consider yourself pwned.

Originally posted by The Spleen
See, did you watch the final fight of the Twilight movies? What is Alice doing to Aro at the end? She is showing him the future. And in this vision, there are....wait for it.........Wolves!!! Now, how was she able to see the Wolves in her vision? Because there were vampires involved in the vision. She was able to see the future of the vampires AND what was happening around them. She is ATTUNED to he family, therefore she can see their future and EVERYTHING and EVERYONE around her family in said vision.

So, according to what was SHOWN in the movie, Alice will be able to use her powers in full in this fight.

Consider yourself pwned.

Pwned? Hahahaha what?

So Alice can see her family getting slaughtered? Even if she can use her powers in such a roundabout fashion, and that's a big if, how will that help? You've seen how fast Ares is. And we've seen that while vampires are fast, they aren't Immortals fast. As they've been zipping around humans and humans are actually reacting, asking what's going on, seeing blurs, etc... People were statues to Ares.

Originally posted by The Spleen
Lol, sure I am. I again refer you to Alice.

Go ahead, say she can't see the future when Gods are involved. I dare you.


Lie told
Originally posted by KingD19
She can't. Because she said she can't. If you're going to straight up ignore what the characters themselves said...well that's evidence that we basically win this debate.

Lie caught
Originally posted by The Spleen
Yes, she said she can't. But let me ask you this. Let's say a random movie character says they cannot speak spanish, then, a second later, they speak fluent spanish. Which takes precedence? What they said or what they did?

Retracting because you were caught lying.

Originally posted by KingD19
Pwned? Hahahaha what?

So Alice can see her family getting slaughtered? Even if she can use her powers in such a roundabout fashion, and that's a big if, how will that help? You've seen how fast Ares is. And we've seen that while vampires are fast, they aren't Immortals fast. As they've been zipping around humans and humans are actually reacting, asking what's going on, seeing blurs, etc... People were statues to Ares.

Nah, you see, Alice was able to see the future of her family, which she projected to Aro. In the same vision, she showed him we wolves would be doing. So what I said stands, unless you have some other explanation as to how Alice was able to see what the would be doing.

Doesn't matter how fast Ares is. She'll know right where he is gonna be at all times, how and when he will attack and she will convey this to Edward, who will convey it to the rest of the team. If you think this is a huge advantage, think twice.

See, I don't expect you to accept this because it destroys your argument many times over.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Lie told

Lie caught

Retracting because you were caught lying.

O'rly? Even though I have definitive, indisputable video evidence backing my claim?

See, I am saying what I KNOW, backed with evidence. You are saying what you THINK, with nothing to back it up.

I win.