Orion vs WWH

Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk beat the hell out of Gladiator (nearly to death) who happens to be faster than Orion though. The Hulk was also dying when he did that to Gladiator.

The slave disks made their hosts compliant Carver. They didn't weaken them, if they did why would they be placed on the arenas seasoned vets? Come on man... LOL. It was the Worm Hole that weakened him. I don't want to have to go back and re-read the entire arc, only to find out that what I am saying is correct. i mean we can always settle on agreeing to disagree like me and Golgo are about to.

What in the world. Lol. The disc weakens them. Thats why Surfer couldn't use the power cosmic. Hulk couldn't amp at all with the disk on...hell, it's possible he was at his Grey Hulk levels during the time he was on Skaar. The only reason he felt the results so long is due to him already being weakened by the wormhole but as soon as he hit planet Skaar, he was hit by the disk as well. You should know this stuff, you are a Hulk fan.

Originally posted by carver9
What in the world. Lol. The disc weakens them. Thats why Surfer couldn't use the power cosmic. Hulk couldn't amp at all with the disk on...hell, it's possible he was at his Grey Hulk levels during the time he was on Skaar. The only reason he felt the results so long is due to him already being weakened by the wormhole but as soon as he hit planet Skaar, he was hit by the disk as well. You should know this stuff, you are a Hulk fan.

Ah OK, now I see what you're saying about the disks. So if this is correct he didn't actually increase in strength with he had to fight that huge metallic cyborg worm, even though in the beginning he had no effect on it. Hmmm.... Well I'll take you're word for it, because it does make some sense.

Orion wins. WWH was a joke, holding back herc made him gush with green blood. holding back bob sentry reversed him back to banner. the x men were making him bleed, even beast with his kicks made him bleed and if beast is able to hurt you then something is wron. there is the reason why guys such as thor were not involved in WWH because all those would destroy him. and there is a reason why they made silver surfer only fight him physically as a gladiator. in order for hulk to beat the big guns they always restrict them to H2H. it reminds me of kimbo slice when he stepped into the UFC dana white payed the fighters extra to only slag it out with him and asked them not to use ground games. same with hulk.

Orion with ease.

Originally posted by h1a8
Orion with ease.

🙂

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Search is your friend.

Either man is perfectly capable of winning; anyone who says otherwise is just being a hater.

That said, merging. Like Digi said, please use the search function.

Originally posted by Stoic
He loves to get in a do battle like a warrior born... This is why he would be soundly beaten down. All of these guys have super speed, the Hulk has super speed as well.

Orion is much more skilled in combat even when in a berserker rage than you are presenting.

To the more pressing issue, are you seriously contending that WWH has speed anywhere comprable to Orion?

Orion lands enough unanswered punches initially to gain an advantage.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Orion is much more skilled in combat even when in a berserker rage than you are presenting.

To the more pressing issue, are you seriously contending that WWH has speed anywhere comprable to Orion?

Orion lands enough unanswered punches initially to gain an advantage.

Please stop the Flash BS, this is Orion, not Wally. The Hulk is more than capable of hitting Orion, and he would crush him due to the way Orion fights in character. Do you know what neutral ground is? Let me explain it to you. The Hulk would not be hindered by harming innocent bystanders, because only Orion would be on the battleground.

WW Hulk's entire thing was that he wrestled against going berserk to get revenge on the guys that he blamed for ruining his happiness. So if Orion was indeed the catalyst of his anger, the Hulk... This version of the Hulk would beat a hole in him faster than you could imagine. What's Orion's biggest strength feat, or should I say what was Orion's biggest strength feat at the time that this thread was created? If I recall correctly he was overcome by a large block of lead that Firestorm put on him during one of his transmutation feats. WW Hulk held a world together... Are you kidding here? Seriously man, Orion would be like a flea to WW Hulk if he went ape-sh!t on him! Granted the block of lead was big enough to have weighed several hundred tons, which is impressive on it's own, but WW Hulk was shifting and holding billions of tons together on Sakaar, and that's still downplaying the amount of weight he dealt with, considering that Sakaar was larger than the Earth.

All of these super strong characters have super speed, the Hulk is very fast himself, and as I stated before he was able to nearly kill a guy that moves faster than Orion. I'm referring to Gladiator. Are you trying to say that the Hulk would somehow have a problem hitting a fast opponent when he has done so repeatedly throughout his history?

Do I need to remind you what happened when WW Hulk drew the battle lines when he asked if there was any innocents around that might be hurt? Should we just make another thread that pits Orion against WW Hulk unleashed, which would be the World Breaker? This way Orion would have nothing to hide behind. Should we go that route? Context is a very large thing, and there was a lot of context behind the Hulk not going ballistic on Earth during the WW Hulk arc.

Oh and there's another thing that you need to know about WW Hulk, because it appears that you don't. He was able to ramp up to High Herald or above strength in seconds. It's all in the Planet Hulk arc. You should take some time, and read it. If you do, you'll stop pretending that Orion is anywhere near WW Hulk's strength class.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Orion is much more skilled in combat even when in a berserker rage than you are presenting.

To the more pressing issue, are you seriously contending that WWH has speed anywhere comprable to Orion?

Orion lands enough unanswered punches initially to gain an advantage.

👆 Amen to that, brotha!

Originally posted by Golgo13
👆 Amen to that, brotha!

You're saying amen to a baseless claim. LOB doesn't know what he's talking about. If WW Hulk had problems hitting guys faster than he was, he wouldn't have been able to touch the Sentry, and yet there he was, nailing him in the face as he attempted to bull rush him, but was unable. Sentry is another guy that's faster than Orion, having the ability to transcend the speed of light. This is shown many times in many of his appearances if you need clarification. At this point your response just bordered on trolling.

Agree to disagree. 🙂

Orion

Originally posted by carver9
I agree. He's stronger.

Originally posted by Stoic
You're right people should always compare Doomsday to the Hulk. He's a direct rip off of the Hulk, but only one can be legally coined as the strongest one there is. Unless you just felt the need to ignore that little thing like most do. Besides this has nothing to do with the reason that WW Hulk would beat the mess out of Orion, none at all. Only in this forum can we limit the Hulk to his WW Hulk top levels, however it does not change the fact that he can truly go beyond what was seen in those poorly written books. WW Hulk was definitely holding back, because he was far more impressive on Sakaar than he was when he got back to Earth this means that he was holding back, and it even states that he was later on, or should we just ignore that little fact as well?

The Hulk would take that Mother Box, turn it sideways, and shove it straight up Orion's @$$.

WWH didn't beat anyone for me to think he could beat preboot orion, being reverted to banner by a weak sentry is a good indicator.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
WWH didn't beat anyone for me to think he could beat preboot orion, being reverted to banner by a weak sentry is a good indicator.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
WWH didn't beat anyone for me to think he could beat preboot orion, being reverted to banner by a weak sentry is a good indicator.

What? He bent Colossus' arm like they were aluminum coat hangers, and Colossus is plenty strong, what was Orion's best strength feat? I saw him toppled by a block of lead that Wonder Man probably would have trouble with, but would be able to lift. The block was big, but not anything that would give WW Hulk trouble. He also defeated Bi-Beast, and Wendigo amplified to 1000x their base with ease. If you had to ask, it's obvious that you didn't read the comics. I would like to understand what your reason for you making your statement, when that particular version of Wendigo is the one that Savage Hulk, and Sasquatch had trouble taking down, and was unable to? Do you just want to ignore that? The Hulk had no problem toying with both of them in their amplified forms (Wendigo & Bi-Beast).

Where did it state that the Sentry was in a weakened form or state? Tony gave him a pep talk, and pumped him up, and he went in and lost. There was no indication that Bob was weakened. What weakened him? Before making these claims, please bring forth some evidence to support your stance, because from where I'm looking it seems like you're attempting to deceive others into believing a lie. Orion loses.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
WWH didn't beat anyone for me to think he could beat preboot orion, being reverted to banner by a weak sentry is a good indicator.

But still had enough energy minutes later to go World Breaker. Then, after the Sentry battle, his eye glowed green. Lets also not forget that Sentry is far more powerful than Orion and Orion can not consistently hit Hulk with the power of a million exploding suns while fist fighting him. He also battled an amped Ironman (and we have seen what Ironman is capable of when putting time into his suit). I'm not naming everything he endured but it's enough to beat Orion who got two pieced by Shaggyman, destroyed by HP and humiliated by Firestorm (who trapped him in an titanium box). WWH would crush him.

Sentry didn't actually use the power of a million exploding suns either...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sentry didn't actually use the power of a million exploding suns either...

It was stated on panel that he used the power of a million explodint suns unless you want to ignore that as well? If so, lets ignore Thor using the power of a thousand tornados or Galactus exerting his energy against Thanos, or Odin destroying Galaxies during his battle. Dang, I got a lot to choose from.

Originally posted by carver9
It was stated on panel that he used the power of a million explodint suns unless you want to ignore that as well? If so, lets ignore Thor using the power of a thousand tornados or Galactus exerting his energy against Thanos, or Odin destroying Galaxies during his battle. Dang, I got a lot to choose from.