Originally posted by JuggernautManiaWhen was the last time that you seriously looked at Danny's feats (serious question, not an insult)? The Iron Fist is a mid/ high herald level attack (destroying a speeding bullet train full of bombs, ragdolling Skaar, oneshotting Ragnarok, oneshotting Colossus, punching through a helicarrier, etc.). IIRC, Danny has a healing factor to help keep him in the fight, can use his chi to make ranged attacks, was in Spider-man's level of speed and agility before he got his recent upgrades, he has mastered a technique that vastly increases his awareness and intelligence, can hypnotize people, can make ordinary objects even more deadly with the use of his chi, and he's one of the top martial artists in Marvel. Danny has beaten characters that can teleport before. Tell me this, has this version of Batman ever used his soul stealing on a character that's an Immortal Weapon with the added chi of another Immortal Weapon and the added augmentation of Agamoto?
wtf? whats wrong with people? batman 1 million can teleport via a teleportation device he designed in his batsuit. he teleported on panel. he will just teleport and beat the crap out of danny via superior skills. hell he can just mind rape dany and thats it or steal his soul. but people here are too biased and 1 dimensional. people see that iron fist has a powerful attack that can destroy a train or what ever and they go like "wooooo HI PUNCHZ HARD" and thats all they need for their opinion.
In one corner you have a character that has a wealth of feats and showings while, in the other, you have a David Cain-esque character who has next to no on panel feats.
Originally posted by God Cloth SeiyaI didn't say that his normal attacks are mid/ high herald. I said the actual punch of the Iron Fist is a mid/ high herald level attack (smacking around Skaar, oneshotting Ragnarok, oneshotting Colossus, punching through a helicarrier. etc).
LOL Danny doesn't mid/high herald attacks lol.
Originally posted by God Cloth SeiyaI'm saying that his best attack is in the mid herald range while, physically, he's in the mid meta tier. That isn't very hard to believe if you look at his average feats. I'm wanking the exact right amount.
Well Iron fist hasn't even shown low herald abilities. He is high meta IMO. I think Deathslash is wanking to hard.
Originally posted by deathslash
When was the last time that you seriously looked at Danny's feats (serious question, not an insult)? The Iron Fist is a mid/ high herald level attack (destroying a speeding bullet train full of bombs, ragdolling Skaar, oneshotting Ragnarok, oneshotting Colossus, punching through a helicarrier, etc.). IIRC, Danny has a healing factor to help keep him in the fight, can use his chi to make ranged attacks, was in Spider-man's level of speed and agility before he got his recent upgrades, he has mastered a technique that vastly increases his awareness and intelligence, can hypnotize people, can make ordinary objects even more deadly with the use of his chi, and he's one of the top martial artists in Marvel. Danny has beaten characters that can teleport before. Tell me this, has this version of Batman ever used his soul stealing on a character that's an Immortal Weapon with the added chi of another Immortal Weapon and the added augmentation of Agamoto?In one corner you have a character that has a wealth of feats and showings while, in the other, you have a David Cain-esque character who has next to no on panel feats.
wow this is just way too dumb. a high herald attack can crush a planet. can the iron fist crush a planet? you are wanking way too much and too hard. a mid herald level attack can level a whole city. can the iron fist level a whole city? lets get back to some proportions ok? the iron fist attack is perhaps as powerful as a full optic blast from cyclops. i would call it a mid - high meta attack thats it.
yeah yeah we get it that danny basically has a chi manipulation, guess what? shang chi has it as well and he did some really ipressive things with his chi vs gorgon, did it help him too much? being able to manipulate chi doesnt mean too much when you are outclassed.
iron fist does not have the abilities of spider man. every single street like daredevil, shang chi, iron fist and even wolverine were able to somewhat match spidy in a fight. thats a load of BS and PIS. spidy is always holding back and not even using 80% of his abilities vs them. when spidy is serious no street can even touch him and this a fact.
now lets look at this that way. average batman will be able to match shang chi, if we use your logic then by skills daredevil and any other street basically stelmated iron fist many times. batman by skills is a match for him. batman 1 million humiliated average batman and is considered the second best fighter in the entire DC universe second to karate kid. now aside of that fact the guy can teleport, make clones of himself. mind rape and sould steal. show me shang chi being resistant to a mind rape. batman 1 million telepathic ability is that great that when he and superman 1 million were in a time loop he was the first one to recognize that and notify superman 1 million about it. the fact alone he was able to recognize it before super freakin 1 million speaks very loudly of his telepathic abilities.
iron fist gets mind raped' soul stolen, or simply getting his ass handed to him by batman 1 million. and i am 99% sure that most of the people who vote for danny didnt read much about the 1 million universe.
Danny used his Fist/chi to contain an explosion powerful enough to destroy a city.
To be perfectly frank I won't recommend a feat war while defending the 1m versions as they are as a collective very short on feats.
Also comparing Shang to Danny is like comparing Lois to Bruce in detective skills... It's possible but you kinda sound like an idiot.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Danny used his Fist/chi to contain an explosion powerful enough to destroy a city.To be perfectly frank I won't recommend a feat war while defending the 1m versions as they are as a collective very short on feats.
Also comparing Shang to Danny is like comparing Lois to Bruce in detective skills... It's possible but you kinda sound like an idiot.
are you claiming iron fist can destroy a city with the iron fist? please provide the evidence to that.
its not a matter of who got more feats its the quality. iron fist got more feats than TOAA ... so ?
no. the only one who may sound as an idiot is the one who thinks there is that much of a gap in skills between shang chi and iron fist. thats just retarded and pure wankage.
Originally posted by JuggernautMania
are you claiming iron fist can destroy a city with the iron fist? please provide the evidence to that.its not a matter of who got more feats its the quality. iron fist got more feats than TOAA ... so ?
no. the only one who may sound as an idiot is the one who thinks there is that much of a gap in skills between shang chi and iron fist. thats just retarded and pure wankage.
He's claiming that IF used his...ah hell, here's the quote.
Danny used his Fist/chi to contain an explosion powerful enough to destroy a city.