Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's claiming that IF used his...ah hell, here's the quote.
hyperbole. and even if so it does not mean he can destroy a city with his iron fist. unless we see on panel feat of him destroying a city or something equal to a city he cant do it. lets say 1 person can punch much harder than the other. the weaker one used his hand to catch the other guys punch cool, doesnt mean he can punch as the same guy.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well no that's because IF doesn't go around destroying cities. He's a hero.You might as well argue Batman lacks the strength to snap someone's neck, as he's never done it on panel.
And besides, why do we need to prove IF can bust a city against Batman 1m here?
Especially when team Bat's showed zip.
Val Armorr or even Mantis, Batman 1m is not.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well no that's because IF doesn't go around destroying cities. He's a hero.You might as well argue Batman lacks the strength to snap someone's neck, as he's never done it on panel.
That has to be one of the less inteligent points someone has ever made. so next thing lets prove spider man cant destroy a city with a punch. i mean he always holds back and doesnt want to destroy the city and all. facts are iron fist never presented a feat of destroying a city or destroying something similar in mass to a city, therefor he cant destroy a city until proved otherwise.
batman has feats supressing snaping a neck. therefor its dumb to asume he cant when he can easily break metal chains and walls.
Originally posted by JuggernautMania
That has to be one of the less inteligent points someone has ever made. so next thing lets prove spider man cant destroy a city with a punch. i mean he always holds back and doesnt want to destroy the city and all. facts are iron fist never presented a feat of destroying a city or destroying something similar in mass to a city, therefor he cant destroy a city until proved otherwise.
batman has feats supressing snaping a neck. therefor its dumb to asume he cant when he can easily break metal chains and walls.
Batman 1 Million has these feats?
I'm not sure what definition of "city busting" Juggs is using, but the fact he's brushing aside scans of Iron Fist basically dropping an H bomb on a city as not uber enough is pretty laughable.
Also, good job making a case for Batman 1mil. Lets just derail the thread and minimize any feat Iron Fist supporters have, post nothing in response, and declare victory. That's not how debating works.
Wouldn't waste any more time on the contrarian, DarkSaint. 🙂
Originally posted by cdtm
I'm not sure what definition of "city busting" Juggs is using, but the fact he's brushing aside scans of Iron Fist basically dropping an H bomb on a city as not uber enough is pretty laughable.Also, good job making a case for Batman 1mil. Lets just derail the thread and minimize any feat Iron Fist supporters have, post nothing in response, and declare victory. That's not how debating works.
Wouldn't waste any more time on the contrarian, DarkSaint. 🙂
its hyperbole. show me iron fist destroying a city or concede of him not being able to.
He caught him by surprise with the equivalent of a sucker punch, and upgraded the Batcomputer. Wow.
However, he wasn't able to come up with tactics to beat Solaris. It was Batman (Bruce) who came up with using Wally to out think him.
So based on the 1M storyline alone, let alone Bruce's other feats, Bruce is tactically smarter than B1M.
Any strength feats to show how much stronger B1M was? Agility? Combat speed? Endurance? Skills?
I mean, I know he had the psychic martial arts of the octopi, but was he any better in say, punching? What was his damage soak like?
Originally posted by Golgo13
If anything, I think Batman wins due to his gear/tech. It's just too much.
Not if Iron Fist rushes him down before he can use it.
And Batman 1mil simply wasn't around long enough to establish many feats, so really nothing to claim he's a bullet timer.
Also, those scans I posted were a city block of buildings reduced to rubble. If that's not a city busting feat, the art clearly shows he bombed well within the arena starting distance.
Originally posted by cdtmso what you're saying is that I was right when I said that the Iron Fist is a mid herald level attack. 😖hifty:
Not if Iron Fist rushes him down before he can use it.And Batman 1mil simply wasn't around long enough to establish many feats, so really nothing to claim he's a bullet timer.
Also, those scans I posted were a city block of buildings reduced to rubble. If that's not a city busting feat, the art clearly shows he bombed well within the arena starting distance.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He caught him by surprise with the equivalent of a sucker punch, and upgraded the Batcomputer. Wow.However, he wasn't able to come up with tactics to beat Solaris. It was Batman (Bruce) who came up with using Wally to out think him.
So based on the 1M storyline alone, let alone Bruce's other feats, Bruce is tactically smarter than B1M.
Any strength feats to show how much stronger B1M was? Agility? Combat speed? Endurance? Skills?
I mean, I know he had the psychic martial arts of the octopi, but was he any better in say, punching? What was his damage soak like?
he was superior to batman as was shown on panel and stated. aside of that in the 1 million supersize 80 page issue, batman owned OWAC with a punch, OWAC is a kryptonian female. so basically batman 1 million owned a kryptonian with a punch. that stomps everything iron fist ever done, too bad i forgot about this feat before because it could end this discussion much earlier.
really? and batman 1 million came up with a tactic for superman 1 million himself, the brainiac 5 level intelectual who can calculate billion scenes in a second. who was even able to calculate for how long the JLA 1 Million would be able to whitstand the Else men. the writer did not intend for it to portray what you stated because batman 1 million is just superior to batman in every single way.
as i said before, second most skilled individual in DC universe, superior to batman to the point he can knock out a kryptonian, has much higher tech which includes soul stealing, flight, teleportration and most importantly telepathy to the point he can mind rape.
mind rape, superior skills, punching power that can KO kryptonian = batman 1 million stomps.
